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To: Diego1618
Hey Diego, in my studies of the Ante-Nicene Fathers, I came across this from Irenaeus writing about the disciples of Simon Magus and the Marcionites:

"When, however, they are confuted by the Scriptures, they turn around and accuse these same Scriptures, as if they were not correct, nor of authority, and [assert] that they are ambiguous, and that the truth cannot be extracted from them by those who are ignorant of tradition. For [they allege] that the truth was not delivered by means of written documents, but by viva voce."

Does that sound familiar? The more things change the more they remain the same. The blabber of the RCC magisterium has not changed since its conception and they are living proof that the tradition that they pontificate ad infinitum is not that of the Apostles but that of the disciples of Simon Magus and their tradition of the tradition of tradition. Their own Holy Nicene Father Irenaeus nails them on this traditional Simonian technique, but then of course, I'm sure they can explain away even his words --- by tradition and the viva voce of the magisterium, as always, to continue to deceive their gullible laity.

848 posted on 11/16/2006 5:39:54 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Diego1618
That's Irenaeus: Against Heresies; Book III; Chapter 2; Verse 1 ----
849 posted on 11/16/2006 5:46:27 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip
From Father Irenaeus about the Gnostic Marcionite source of one of the RCC's most lasting traditions:

"When, however, they are confuted by the Scriptures, they turn around and accuse these same Scriptures, as if they were not correct, nor of authority, and [assert] that they are ambiguous, and that the truth cannot be extracted from them by those who are ignorant of tradition. For [they allege] that the truth was not delivered by means of written documents, but by viva voce."

852 posted on 11/24/2006 3:42:22 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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