To: HarleyD
Irenaeus says that those who allegorized the Scriptures to prove their doctrine were disciples if Simon Magus.
774 posted on
11/07/2006 5:08:20 AM PST by
Uncle Chip
(TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
To: Uncle Chip
I'm NOT allegorizing ANYTHING. I'm quoting Paul as to who is the true Israel. Are you saying he was a disciple of Simon Magus? Those who walk by faith belong to Abraham. The Jews through birth. The Gentiles through adoption. The Gentiles are grafted into the blessed family of Abraham. Those who do not walk by faith are not Abraham children and have no part in the promises of God.
This isn't a allegory but a fact. Abraham would be the first to admit it. He sent Ismael away. He went and rescued Lot. Ismael wasn't a believer. Lot was.
The only thing that awaits unbelievers is wrath, not blessings, and that's a promise.
775 posted on
11/07/2006 5:27:45 AM PST by
HarleyD
(Mat 19:11 But He said to them, Not all receive this word, except those to whom it is given.)
To: Uncle Chip
Irenaeus says that those who allegorized the Scriptures to prove their doctrine were disciples if Simon Magus. Can you provide a full context quote of this? Realizing how you have interpreted the Fathers previously, I have doubts on the above statement without evidence.
Thanks in advance.
Regards
778 posted on
11/07/2006 5:50:48 AM PST by
jo kus
(Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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