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To: annalex
No, the arrogance is the church's. The church has no clear scriptures, only that which requires interpretation that no ordinary man, reading them without first being conditioned by church propaganda, would make.

An organization has, and can have, no receiving of the Holy Spirit, and the gifts and salvation thereof, only individuals.

There is the error.

585 posted on 11/03/2006 12:47:40 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
requires interpretation that no ordinary man, reading them without first being conditioned by church propaganda, would make

Propaganda?

It is a rule in reading any text that it is read in the linguistic and cultural context of the writer. The fathers of the Church knew the intent of the inspired writers, shared their culture and spoke their language. This is how the Church teaches to interpret the scripture, through the patristic lense. You, on the other hand, do not even read Greek, but you profess to be able to subvert 2000 years of work done by people who gave their lives to the task.

An organization has, and can have, no receiving of the Holy Spirit, and the gifts and salvation thereof, only individuals.

True, but irrelevant. Naturally, the authority of the Church resides with her bishops.

587 posted on 11/03/2006 1:18:07 PM PST by annalex
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