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To: Quix

Your post is full of so many logical fallacies and strawmen that I don't know where to start. But most specifically the argument that God must be an idiot to rely on the Roman model for anointing (and I'm not clear on whether you refer to the Roman Empire or the Roman Catholic Church when you say "Roman").


52 posted on 10/28/2006 7:52:54 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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The Roman religious group/church/denomination/sect.

I don't know how to put it any better.

Father sends His only son to die for a bunch of critters. Son comes and dies a horrid death. Son models what being a servant leader is all about. Son leaves to return to The Father. Sends Holy Spirit to continue to lead the individuals and groups of critters into all truth in humility and shared discernment, decision process etc. as outlined in I Cor 12-14.

After 200 or so years, a group arises with very successful political skills and takes deep powerful root in Rome. Additional political escapades acquire even more power. Tradition builds as calsification and fossilization on the growing plethora of monuments to various human critters--interestingly to human power mongers--instead of to God.

Seems to me if Biblical monuments to the glory of GOD were the objective, depictions of the text of Scripture would have done nicely . . . especially given God's aversion to graven images and all.

In any case, the growing power is UNsurprisingly matched by growing cycles of corruption, gross sin, hypocrisy and overweaning arrogance, haughtiness and abuse of the sheep.

To think that God would have left HIS ANOINTING on such a pile of horse processed hay OF ANY denominational flavor is to construe God as an idiot. To think that Almighty God is so stupid as to allow a collection of folks in His Son's name to acquire power and then use that power on a list of ways OPPOSITE to the model and directions of His Son's teachings . . . and imagining that God would then allow Holy Spirit's anointing to remain on that group???? That's nonsense. Sheer affrontery.

God is not into making sculptures out of horse biscuits.

He's not into gilding horse biscuits.

He leaves all that to Martha Stewart.

Now, certainly, when any individuals have arisin--perhaps again--within the Roman group or any other group who are diligent about following Christ's teachings and examples earnestly and diligently . . . I suspect evidence can be found for a return of the anointing of His Spirit so long as such a case were operant. But such things tend to ebb more than they flow, in my experience and observations.

I suspect a close examination of any denominational group would reveal great long periods of an absence of Holy Spirit's anointing on the leadership and the group with maybe brief interludes where He returned for short gigs, as it were.

What's straw man-ish about expecting, understanding and observing that Roman folks are just as human as other humans? Seems like a no-brainer, to me . . . unless maybe someone is contending that ALL the Roman believers and especially the hierarchy have always been ET's from Zeta Reticuli or some such. Failing that, I think it's quite reasonable to expect Roman believers and leaders to be just as human as the rest of us.

Now why they have appeared so often in history to work so heard demontrating that they are MORE FLAWED HUMAN EXAMPLES-on average in certain eras--than a lot of us--could be a mystery worth exploring. Though I suspect it merely has to do with the arrogance of power mongering and absolute power corrupting absolutely.

As Pastor says . . . God must regret that He didn't redeem monkies, instead.


95 posted on 10/28/2006 12:43:24 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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