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Changing the Tunes to Get Teens to Church
www.9wsyr.com ^ | 10/26/06 | ALPHA-8-25-02

Posted on 10/26/2006 5:38:37 AM PDT by alpha-8-25-02

Syracuse (WSYR-TV) – It’s not often that Catholic churches turn into rock concerts, but that’s what’s been happening Wednesdays at St. Michael’s on Onondaga Hill.

Wednesday nights are revived thanks to a man who says kids relate to an MTV-style church.

Justin Fatica moved to Syracuse about a year ago with a challenge: to inspire Middle and High Schoolers to care about God and each other.

One day he wants to transplant the pews in stadium seating.

“I told people that and they laughed at me,” he says, “Even my bosses were like, you're going to get hundreds of kids here? I said, ‘God can make it happen.’ And look we've got hundreds of kids in one year.”

On that one year anniversary of Mega Youth, kids say they’ve changed.

Putting on the programs every Wednesday and bringing in acts is all paid for by the local Catholic high schools.

That's also who pays Justin's salary. But it's not just for one religion...it's meant for anybody.

Call it a gimmick, but when you substitute hip for hymnals, kids from Catholic and non-Catholic schools learn the words.

And their youth leader hopes the lyrics’ message sticks too, so he can attract thousands of believers he needs to fill a stadium he plans to build.

Justin Fatica is also working on a motivational book and a documentary on his work in Syracuse.


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I AM NOT FLAMEING CATHOLICS,CHECK MY PROFILE PAGE. IN THE 60'S I REMEMBER THE FOLK MUSIC SUBSTITUTING THE HIGH MASS.ALSO I DISLIKE THE ENTERTAINMENT VALUE GIVEN TO MANY SO-CALLED PROTESTANT WORSHIP SERVICES. READ:ASHAMED OF THE GOSPEL - JOHN MACARTHUR:

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1 posted on 10/26/2006 5:38:38 AM PDT by alpha-8-25-02
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To: alpha-8-25-02

No flame detected, you're entitled to your position (and plz turn off the caps lock - looks like you're screaming).

With that said, our church started a contemporary music format for our 6pm Sunday mass (the "Youth" Mass) several years ago and it's been met with lots of support. Before that, we were losing our kids to a nearby non-denominational Christian church whose service was at the same time. They had a much more dynamic music program. But once the kids heard what was happening at our church, they started coming back.

Like it or not, many times it's about marketing. What ever would appeal to people enough to bring them in the doors to hear the Word. Several other churches in our diocese are doing the same thing - with the same success. We're not altering the liturgy, just enhancing it and bringing things up to date a bit.

All our Pastor asks is that the songs that we select be inclusive of the congregation - that all can sing along. THere is a fine line between worshiping and performiong. I play electric guitar and if I were to break out into some kind of lead solo, that would be performing.

As a Catholic, you know that our whole faith revolves around recieving the Eucharist. To me that's the most important thing about coming to Mass. To be in communion not only with your fellow Catholics, but most importantly, with the Lord through the Eucharist. If playing contemporary music will attract people to learniong more about theit faith, then I think it's a good thing.

FReegards
Pete


2 posted on 10/26/2006 5:53:52 AM PDT by peteram
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To: peteram

At the same time, the traditional classics should be kept too, the kids may not realize it at the time, but hearing those will someday be a comfort to them. I, personally, don't think a lot of that new stuff is going to hold up over time.

I know that makes me sound like a geezer saying that.....maybe I am becoming a geez. Oh well.


3 posted on 10/26/2006 6:08:27 AM PDT by alicewonders
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To: alpha-8-25-02
Liturgical music should be impervious to fads.

Plainchant is beautiful and dignified. And timeless.

4 posted on 10/26/2006 6:15:11 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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Oh, I agree about the traditional classics. We have a relatively large parish which requires six Masses from Saturday evening through Sunday (including a Spanish Mass). Our 10 AM Mass is the one with the traditional choir and it fills up. And our choir sounds beautiful. The other Masses are generally served by a cantor and pianist/organist playing traditional hymms. So there is something for everyone.

I realize that not all parishes are as large as ours, some here in Florida are served by only one priest and have limited services. Each parish should examine its needs depending on who they are serving.

I agree with you also that stadium seating is a little over the top. I've been to a couple of large baptist churches in our area (funerals and other events) and they look more like auditoriums than churches. Not as warm or inviting as I would like. But - thats their thing.

I remember the transition to Vatican II (Yes, I'm that old) and I know that my dad and many other Catholics felt alittle disenfranchised over it. Change is not always easy and there are those who do prefer the more traditional - because thats familiar to them. BTW - I read recently where the Pope wants to start adding Masses in Latin again. I think thats a great idea, because I know some folks (my dad included) who like that.


5 posted on 10/26/2006 6:23:56 AM PDT by peteram
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To: alicewonders

Mass is NOT for entertainment and I detest youth folk masses.....it's just a meet and greet.


6 posted on 10/26/2006 6:31:10 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (ed)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Well, looking out toward the congregation from the choir area where I play guitar, from my point of view I can see alot of youth/young adults being very prayerful and worshiping. No chatter among them during the Mass.


7 posted on 10/26/2006 6:43:41 AM PDT by peteram
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We were ALL prayerful at Mass once...we didn;t need guitars and tambourines......what are these kids going to do when they become adults, want Frank Sinatra type music at Mass???


8 posted on 10/26/2006 6:46:02 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (ed)
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LOL - I was just having an image of "the Chairman" singing in front of the church.

I don't know what they would want as adults - things will probably change some more by then. For the last five years or so there has been a growth in contemporary Christian music as a genre, so much so that the local Christian station here has been doing quite well in the ratings against the more traditional (secular) music stations. I think thats awesome because the message that they are hearing in the music is a positive and hopeful one. It also says to me that kids are seeking. They want more quality in life and they are becoming aware that the only way to live fruitfully is with the help of our Lord.

So, in a sense we are reaching out to them in a musical "language" they understand. And it's not like we're constantly playing throughout. We follow the liturgy as it has always been. And as I mentioned earlier, we are very conscious of not turning Mass into a performance. We know that its for His glory - not ours.


9 posted on 10/26/2006 7:01:46 AM PDT by peteram
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You are talking about Evangelicals....the Catholic Mass is SO much more than these services.....sorry, but the guitar, while nice, is not up to the glory of the Sacrifice of the Mass....and the kids should be taught about the REVERENCE that the Mass demands.


10 posted on 10/26/2006 7:29:19 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (ed)
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To: Suzy Quzy

"We were ALL prayerful at Mass once...we didn;t need guitars and tambourines......what are these kids going to do when they become adults, want Frank Sinatra type music at Mass???"




That seems unlikely. Someday, they'll probably long for the same music they like right now, which will have been replaced by who knows what.

Sacred music has changed a great deal over the years. Once, only plainsong was allowed in church. Then came simply polyphonic music, still unaccompanied by any instruments. Then came the organ to add to the music. Then came the piano.

The music itself changed, too. The hymns you may remember aren't all that old, really. Then there's the magnificent music composed for the liturgy over the years.

Now, new forms are showing up. It's only natural that those used to the old forms don't like the new stuff. That's been going on for centuries.

Someday, these young people who clamor for their music to be part of the liturgy will be annoyed at the music their children and grandchildren enjoy as sacred music.

Time marches on. Still, there are churches where only plainsong is used. Not many, but some. You could probably find one in your area.


11 posted on 10/26/2006 7:31:23 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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Since you are an ATHEIST, why would you comment about Mass songs?


12 posted on 10/26/2006 7:35:43 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (ed)
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To: Suzy Quzy

"Since you are an ATHEIST, why would you comment about Mass songs?"

Why wouldn't I? I'm also a musician, and have performed music in churches and cathedrals all over the world. I've played in orchestras which have performed some of the greatest liturgical music ever written.

I used to be a vocal soloist, too. I've sung in hundreds of churches, performing in Handel's Messiah, various masses by several composers, and have performed all sorts of sacred music for all sorts of occasions.

It's a fair question, though. I have a deep appreciation for the role sacred music has played in the development of music in the West.


13 posted on 10/26/2006 8:00:34 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: Suzy Quzy
You are talking about Evangelicals....the Catholic Mass is SO much more than these services.....sorry, but the guitar, while nice, is not up to the glory of the Sacrifice of the Mass....and the kids should be taught about the REVERENCE that the Mass demands.

But aren't we ALL evangilists? To evangilize is to spread the Good News. Christ told us in the last chapter of Matthew to go forth and preach the Gospels, baptizing those as you do.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, everyone is prayerful and reverent during the Mass. The music doesn't seem to detract from it. As a matter of fact, the music is Spirit filling. Certainly people are praising in a way that the Catholic Church hasn't seen, but it doesn't mean we are forsaking our basic faith beliefs. We are just praising alittle differently. But.....we are Praising. That's the objective.

14 posted on 10/26/2006 8:46:26 AM PDT by peteram
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To: peteram

Whatever.


15 posted on 10/26/2006 9:01:14 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (ed)
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To: MineralMan

GOD gave you a FABULOUS TALENT of Music , yet you DENY he exists??? WOW...you must not think much of your talent. Sad.


16 posted on 10/26/2006 9:04:00 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (ed)
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"GOD gave you a FABULOUS TALENT of Music , yet you DENY he exists??? WOW...you must not think much of your talent. Sad.
"

Never mind. My "talent" for music came to be after many years of teaching and thousands and thousands of hours of arduous practice. I inherited the basic "talent" from my parents, who inherited it from their parents. Without the rest, though, I'd just have been singing hymns in the congregation.

You presume too much about me.


17 posted on 10/26/2006 9:23:46 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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Good for you MM. And good luck in your religion too.


18 posted on 10/26/2006 9:33:40 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: MineralMan

I presume you are ungrateful....I think I got that right.


19 posted on 10/26/2006 9:39:00 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (ed)
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To: Suzy Quzy

"I presume you are ungrateful....I think I got that right.
"

Nope. I'm very grateful. I'm grateful that my parents were also musical and that I got some of that from their genetic material. I'm also very grateful that they encouraged me to take those many lessons and that they were willing to pay for it.

I'm grateful to my oboe and voice teachers, as well. Their skills at helping me progress were invaluable.

I'm grateful to all of those who encouraged me to develop my skills, from teachers, choir directors, band and orchestra teachers, and others.

I'm grateful, too, to all those composers who created works I performed. Bach's B-minor Mass, in particular, is a work that still sends chills down my spine. The duet between the oboe d'amore and the contralto in that piece of music is one of the highlights of my performing life.

Music has made my life much more interesting and let me meet others who shared the same interest. I hope it also afforded some inspiration amongst the various audiences who heard the music I helped perform.

I no longer play, and my singing voice is not what it was in my youth. I would not trade the experience for anything.

So...contrary to your opinion, I'm very grateful.


20 posted on 10/26/2006 9:46:52 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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