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To: Salvation; NYer

Respectfully asked...based on your post on here and thru the link you provided, please present the scriptures that support all the Sacraments based on this definition provided in the link you posted:

There are three basic elements that constitute a sacrament. First, it is an external, sensibly perceptible sign of sanctifying grace. There is something which is external, something which is sensible. You can either see it or hear it or taste it or touch it, whatever the case might be. Second, it is a sign which causes grace. In other words, they not only signify grace, but they actually cause or confer grace in the soul of the recipient. When you receive a sacrament, you receive an increase of sanctifying grace plus the actual grace that comes with the sacrament. Third, they are instituted by Christ. This is very important because it means that God wills to communicate Himself to us in and through definite outward signs. This means, obviously, that the Church did not invent the seven sacraments but received them from Her divine founder. We see, then, that the sacraments continue the work of Christ. The Church is the Mystical Christ. You can look at all the things that Jesus did: He fed people, He healed people, He forgave people, and so on. That is what the sacraments do; they continue the work of Christ through His Mystical Body, the Church.

Neither of you two ever answer my questions, why I don't know? I try to ask in a respectful manner but yet I here silence...please answer this time...

In Christ.


10 posted on 10/22/2006 9:48:50 AM PDT by phatus maximus (John 6:29...Learn it, love it, live it...)
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To: phatus maximus

http://www.scripturecatholic.com/index.html


12 posted on 10/22/2006 10:43:13 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: phatus maximus; Salvation
Respectfully asked...based on your post on here and thru the link you provided, please present the scriptures that support all the Sacraments based on this definition provided in the link you posted:

Neither of you two ever answer my questions, why I don't know? I try to ask in a respectful manner but yet I here silence...please answer this time...

Apologies if I have neglected to answer any of your questions. Both Salvation and I maintain'ping' lists; hence, we are pinged so frequently in the course of a day that we often miss many of these. Secondly, neither one of us is a theologian. We dabble in apologetics but certain questions may be more complex than we are capable of handling. Should you have a question, please feel free to freepmail me with a link to your post and I promise to respond, even if the answer is "I don't know but will get back to you", okay?

Now, insofar as your question on this thread, I will attempt to do my best to address it.


You referenced the following statement from one of Salvation's links.

There are three basic elements that constitute a sacrament. First, it is an external, sensibly perceptible sign of sanctifying grace. There is something which is external, something which is sensible. You can either see it or hear it or taste it or touch it, whatever the case might be. Second, it is a sign which causes grace. In other words, they not only signify grace, but they actually cause or confer grace in the soul of the recipient. When you receive a sacrament, you receive an increase of sanctifying grace plus the actual grace that comes with the sacrament. Third, they are instituted by Christ. This is very important because it means that God wills to communicate Himself to us in and through definite outward signs. This means, obviously, that the Church did not invent the seven sacraments but received them from Her divine founder.

Let's begin with the first Sacrament - Baptism

"Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." - John 3:3-5

The 2nd Sacrament is Penance

"And when he had said this, he breathed on [them], and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; [and] whose soever [sins] ye retain, they are retained." - John 20:22-23

The 3rd Sacrament is Holy Communion.

"I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat? Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him." - John 6:51-56

4th is the Sacrament of Confirmation.

We read in the Acts of the Apostles (viii, 14-17) that after the Samaritan converts had been baptized by Philip the deacon, the Apostles "sent unto them Peter and John, who, when they were come, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost; for he was not yet come upon any of them, but they were only baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus; then they laid their hands upon them, and they received the Holy Ghost" read more .

The Sacrament of Matrimony

Holy Scripture affirms that man and woman were created for one another: "It is not good that the man should be alone." The woman, "flesh of his flesh," his equal, his nearest in all things, is given to him by God as a "helpmate"; she thus represents God from whom comes our help. "Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and cleaves to his wife, and they become one flesh." The Lord himself shows that this signifies an unbreakable union of their two lives by recalling what the plan of the Creator had been "in the beginning": "So they are no longer two, but one flesh."

The Sacrament of Holy Orders

From Scripture we learn that the Apostles appointed others by an external rite (imposition of hands), conferring inward grace. The fact that grace is ascribed immediately to the external rite, shows that Christ must have thus ordained. The fact that cheirontonein, cheirotonia, which meant electing by show of hands, had acquired the technical meaning of ordination by imposition of hands before the middle of the third century, shows that appointment to the various orders was made by that external rite. We read of the deacons, how the Apostles "praying, imposed hands upon them" (Acts 6:6). In II Tim., i, 6 St. Paul reminds Timothy that he was made a bishop by the imposition of St. Paul's hands (cf. 1 Timothy 4:4), and Timothy is exhorted to appoint presbyters by the same rite (1 Timothy 5:22; cf. Acts 13:3; 14:22). read more.

The 7th Sacrament is Anointing of the Sick

"Is any man sick among you? Let him bring in the priests of the Church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer of faith shall save [sosei] the sick man: and the Lord shall raise him up [egerei]: and if he be in sins, they shall be forgiven him." James 14, 15 read more.


I would suggest that you explore a more definitive and thorough explantion for all of these Sacraments. That would be found in:

Catechism of the Catholic Church

13 posted on 10/22/2006 11:36:21 AM PDT by NYer
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