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To: 1000 silverlings; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; Star Chamber; .30Carbine; proud_2_B_texasgal; ladyinred
But, what exactly are "all revelations of God"? This is an old bugaboo isn't it?

Not at all, 1000 silverlings!

Again on this thread I assert strongly that God the Father has revealed Himself in four ways:

1. Through Jesus Christ who is the brightness of His glory, the express image of His person – by whom everything that was made, was made, and for whom it exists and by whom it subsists. (Hebrews 1:3, Col 1)

2. Through the indwelling Spirit who reveals Truth to us and leads us. (John 14-17, Romans 8, I Cor 2)

3. Through the Scriptures, the truth of which are authenticated by Jesus (Matt 5) and by the indwelling Spirit - which is to say, the first two revelations.

4. Through Creation itself. (Psalms 19) And we will be held to account if we fail to notice at least this much of His revelation (Romans 1:20)

And concerning "personal revelation" the first and most important one that we Christians - every single one of us - receive is that "Jesus Christ is Lord". That doesn't come from our own mind, it comes from Him. God cannot be found by the reason-only sort, Christ is foolishness to them (I Cor 2)

We are the "elect" or "called" or "drawn" or the ones with "ears to hear":

Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word. - John 8:43

The ones to whom Christ was speaking had physical ears which were registering the pressure waves (sounds) and their brains were working. They were hearing physically, but they were not hearing spiritually.

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: - John 10:27

As to the revelation of the Spirit, if a person does not have it, he is not reborn, he is not one of Christ's.

And if he has been reborn, but refuses to listen to the Spirit, he is in deep trouble:

For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded [is] death; but to be spiritually minded [is] life and peace. Because the carnal mind [is] enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. - Romans 8:5-9

IMHO all of these points should be the basics, milk, to every Christian.

1,720 posted on 10/27/2006 1:01:02 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

Thank you, A-G!


1,787 posted on 10/28/2006 5:44:38 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: Alamo-Girl; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; HarleyD; Star Chamber
But, what exactly are "all revelations of God"? This is an old bugaboo isn't it?

Not at all, 1000 silverlings

Thank you for the reply yourself, Alamo Girl!

Ergo, Here is something interesting that occurred to me last night:

If you reject the authority of men re God's Word, revelations, etc. who and how would you personally define a "prophet" or perhaps a "prophetess?"

Iknow Quix will be interested in this subject as well. Thanks

1,802 posted on 10/28/2006 1:22:19 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (stand up, stand up for Jesus, ye soldiers of the Cross)
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