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Thanks. Now I understand your concern. As you noted, I completely agree with you that mysticism divorced from Church authority is a recipe for "each person doing what is right in his own eyes", and a fragmentation of the Church into as many 'churches' as there are believers. I couldn't agree with you more on that point.

But, if a person is under the authority of the Church, then I think your concern would be allayed. The Church's mystics, think of St. John of the Cross, for example, or St. Teresa of Avila, have deeply enriched her theology and spirituality. Would you agree?

-A8

1,427 posted on 10/25/2006 2:07:56 PM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)

No, in fact they claim Jesus spoke to them personally and said things never attributed to Him in the bible, so, no biblical basis for their claims.

Apparently, John of the Cross said that intense spiritual and emotional suffering is necessary for intimacy with God.

Theresa said Jesus wanted her to be sick and suffering.

As a Christian believer, I find their remarks sheer vanity and an argument for a works based religion.