[nmh]

"It isn't? How do you know this? Actually, Paul's words were written, so this was not prior to the written word. Are Paul's letters no longer relevant? That would come as an enormous suprise to all those denominations that focus primarily on Paul's letters. "

So the Bible was written in Paul's day? Just because Paul wrote a lot of things yet only SOME of it is in the Bible. Interesting how God is SELECTIVE. You need ALL that is in the Bible to get the most accurate picture. Then again, for some who have little interest in His teachings would be content with some crumbs to bat around.

"Are you authoritative enough to tell other what is and is not needed in worship? That's pretty bold, it seems to me."

You really need to READ the Bible. The BIBLE, God's Word is the ULTIMATE AUTHORITY. That's where I get my views from. I think God has every right to be BOLD. I believe God has every right to determine HOW people worship and WHO they worship. If people could move off their agendas and READ what He has written for us, they'd flee some of these "churches" but they'd rather trust a mere mortal to teach them unBiblical teachings to fit in with their pride/ego and agenda.

"Paul instructed the young churches in doctrine, and most churches use his words today to help them understand what to do. Are you saying that Paul's words are no longer of value to today's church? "

I'm saying over and over again that speaking in tongues is not necessary today. We have the Bible.

What you keep avoiding over and over and over again is WHY you think tongues are necessary today when we have His WRITTEN Word for teachings, doctrines, beliefs etc..

Do you think God is stupid? Did He leave things out that must be spoken in tongues that most will NOT understand?

The God I know, is Perfect. He doesn't over look anything. I suppose I'll never get the answer to my question on WHY you believe speaking in tongues is legitimate. BTW, HOW do you know speaking in tongues is from GOD? HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS, let alone WHAT they are saying when they "speak in tongues"? Me thinks you have a lot of explaining to do.

"It's all academic to me, of course."

[Quix]

I'm saying over and over again that speaking in tongues is not necessary today. We have the Bible.
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Lots of people SAY LOTS of things.

Doesn't make them remotely close to the truth.

[Quix]

Doesn't make them remotely close to the truth.

Also doesn't make them remotely close to BIBLICAL.

[MineralMan]

"The God I know, is Perfect. He doesn't over look anything. I suppose I'll never get the answer to my question on WHY you believe speaking in tongues is legitimate. BTW, HOW do you know speaking in tongues is from GOD? HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS, let alone WHAT they are saying when they "speak in tongues"? Me thinks you have a lot of explaining to do.
"

Oh, my, nmh. From my tagline, you should already know that I don't believe in any deities at all. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the interesting phenomenon of one denomination taking from the Bible that speaking in tongues is an important thing, while others think it is not.

As for which of those early writings are in the Bible and which are not, that's a subject that could be discussed at length, but it's not the subject of this thread.

I know when the Canon of the Bible was established. That's not the point here. You say that tongues are no longer useful. Other say they are. I'm still waiting for your actual argument, based on scripture, as to why they are no longer useful.

My point, as always, is about the internal disputes between the various denominations of Christianity. That is the subject I find interesting.

[Quix]

What you keep avoiding over and over and over again is WHY you think tongues are necessary today when we have His WRITTEN Word for teachings, doctrines, beliefs etc..
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I wasn't aware that

THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL LEAD US INTO ALL TRUTH

had been removed from even the rubber Bibles so common hereon.

[Quix]

Do you think God is stupid? Did He leave things out that must be spoken in tongues that most will NOT understand?
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I don't know if this is a convoluted straw dog

or

a red herring

or

a STRAW-RED-DOG-HERRING

Incredible.

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Ladies and Gentlemen, boys and girls, dogs and cats . . .

The END TIMES are here and more so looming . . .

Believers far and wide will be escaping to various safe havens; temporary locations etc . . .

Of course . . . the perspective being responded to . . . evidently trusts that such folks . . . as they are

RUNNING AND NOT GETTING WEARY . . .

will pull out their trusty KJV's and . . . hurridly scan umpteen thousand words to find out which path to take;

which fork in the forest to forsake;

which cave to trust in;

which spring to drink from;

which rock to find food under;

. . .

since, it's ALL claimed to be in THE WRITTEN WORD.

ROTFLOL;

ROTFLOLUMSAE

[Rolling On the Floor Laughing Out Loud Until My Sides Ache Excruciatingly].

Then crying about such a terminally dangerous attitude--particularly for these times.

[Quix]

Nor, evidently, respond thoughtfully and Biblically to any of the 10 given.

[Quix]

HOW do you know speaking in tongues is from GOD? HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS, let alone WHAT they are saying when they "speak in tongues"? Me thinks you have a lot of explaining to do.
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Scripture is rather clear on that score . . .

that which; those who confess that Jesus came in the flesh; died; rose etc. are of God.

BTW, There's no twisting of St Paul's words at all. Just taking them plainly as he wrote them as edification for BELIEVERS.

NOT assuming, presuming and distorting them by inferences and extrapolations all out of whack.

[PleaseNoMore]

BTW, HOW do you know speaking in tongues is from GOD?

Um, because the bible says it is a gift of the Holy Spirit.

HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS, let alone WHAT they are saying when they "speak in tongues"?

Maybe it's NOT for you to know.