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Rev. Ray Ryland is a contributing editor of This Rock magazine and chaplain of the Coming Home Network.
1 posted on 10/16/2006 8:42:59 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 10/16/2006 8:43:40 AM PDT by NYer ("It is easier for the earth to exist without sun than without the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.” PPio)
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i don't get it. the Church ordained this guy?


3 posted on 10/16/2006 8:44:56 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (* nuke * the * jihad *)
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"The fact is, no one can do complete justice to both simultaneously."

If he truly believes this why is he shortchanging his wife and his parishoners?


4 posted on 10/16/2006 8:47:58 AM PDT by kalee
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While I'm deeply grateful that the Church has made an exception for certain former Protestant clergy like me, the exception is clearly a compromise. The priesthood and marriage are both full-time vocations. The fact is, no one can do complete justice to both simultaneously.

It seems to me that if he feels he cannot do justice to both he should stick to being married and not have joined up.
5 posted on 10/16/2006 8:48:24 AM PDT by kawaii
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Who's Celiba, and why is this priest looking at her? :0)


13 posted on 10/16/2006 9:06:07 AM PDT by COBOL2Java ("No stronger retrograde force exists in the world" - Winston Churchill on Islam)
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First of all It Seems to me his comments are insulting to his former fellow Anglican priests who are married and doing a responsible ministry and to all married Protestant ministers who are well respected and considered to be doing a good job with their churches. Granted they probably don't play as much golf as the celibate Catholic clergy.


22 posted on 10/16/2006 10:55:52 AM PDT by VidMihi
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And secondly the now elderly Father forgets that Peter was married and we strongly suspect that all the other Apostles (except John) were probably married,( so Jesus did not have a problem with married priests ) as were 39 popes married and many others had women friends ( platonic - oh yeah ) or boy friends.


24 posted on 10/16/2006 11:48:34 AM PDT by VidMihi
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Good article.

Most Catholics are ignorant of the history of celibacy and think that it began in the eleventh or twelfth century. They don't realize that the Gregorian reforms were part of a much older tradition of clerical continence. Those who insist that the Church go back to its earlier practice of ordaining married men, don't understand what they are asking for. They don't realize that if the Church went back to its tenth century discipline of ordaining married men, that these men would be requied to remain completely chaste after ordination. They don't realize that this would mean these priests could not remarry after ordination if their wives died. They don't realize that unmarried priests would not be allowed to marry after ordination. The priests who left the priesthood over the last forty years in order to get married would NOT be allowed to return to the priesthood if this earlier tradition were adopted. This clearly is not what the advocates of a married priesthood want. What they want is something that was never permitted in the western Church.


34 posted on 10/17/2006 5:29:55 AM PDT by steadfastconservative
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