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To: Andrew Byler; Tax-chick; sitetest
"Willful formal heretics are not 'brothers'... "

There are types and degrees of brotherhood; there are different senses in which a man can be a brother.


194 posted on 10/30/2006 10:36:15 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Pastores vos dabo.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Good post.


195 posted on 10/30/2006 10:45:13 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Excellent.


196 posted on 10/30/2006 1:26:02 PM PST by Tax-chick ("If we have no fear, Pentecost comes again." ~ Bishop William Curlin)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Tax-chick; sitetest
Second, a Christian who is no longer in communion with the Catholic Church, is one of those whom the Council Fathers called "separated brethren."

"Seperated Brethren" is the term for those who were baptized into and raised in other Christian communities. This is not a term for Catholics who publicly deny an article of the faith (the Papacy in this case) and make a public spectacle of the break with the Church over what are frankly BS reasons.

Rod has left the communion of the Catholic Church and is publicly denying the historical basis of the dogmas of the Papacy. A Catholic who denies one article of the faith does not have any divine faith at all - just an overinflated opinion of his own making. And in denying the faith, one is no longer a Catholic.

What good does it do any sinner if, when he's still in the "far country," the prodigal's father makes a point of publishing that, "He's not my son," or if the Good Shepherd insists, "He's not my sheep," or if you make a point of saying, "He's not my brother"?

No one is saying that. Rather Rod is publicly inveighing against the Catholic faith, clergy, and faithful. If Rod were coming back on his knees begging for mercy, and we were to kick him in the face and say "begone with you heretic!" that would be comparable to the treatment of the Prodigal by his brother. Additionally, the issue with the Prodigal was loose living, not denial of the faith and fighting against the Jewish people and Priesthood. Rod's doing nothing of the sort in either begging forgiveness or cavorting in public personal sin, so lets not confuse the issue. He is attacking the Church and the Pope, the heirarchy, and his former co-religionists.

198 posted on 10/30/2006 1:41:54 PM PST by Andrew Byler
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