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To: Bainbridge; FJ290; sandyeggo; BlackElk; sitetest; don-o
1 Corinth 13: Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;

*I have given an explanation in defense of Pope John Paul II. My defense/explanation is his actions represent a gesture of Eastern gratitude/thankfulness. My defense/explanation is obviously not outside the realm of possibility. We are putative Christians. Ought we not give Pope John Paul II the benefit of the doubt?

The other thing, I guess, is we Christians can conclude the kiss indicates his entire life was a fraud and he really did think there was no difference twizt Jesus and Mohammed nor was there a difference twixt Bible and Koran.

You know, in Acts 17:28, we read

For in him we live and move and are: as some also of your own poets said: For we are also his offspring.

The poets/poems referenced are Cleanthes' Hymn to Zeus and the Phaenomena of Aratus. Cleanthes and Aratus were pagans.

Maybe we should dig-up St. Paul and put him on trial for writing words susceptible to misjudgement.

All poor Pope John Paul did was to kiss a gift. Sure, the gift was a Koran. But the Koran DOES contain some truths.

We Christians long ago did somthing MUCH WORSE than what Pope John Paul II did. And I have never heard a SINGLE Christian object, even though they, presumably, have read Acts repeatedly.

St. Paul praised truth apprehended by pagans. And we Christian Catholics decided that would be part of the Canon of Scripture.

Yep. We Christians praise pagans. Burn your Bibles !!!!

Maybe we Christians can't be trusted at all. Maybe such lines ought be stricken from the Bible. After all, such lines are susceptible to misjudements on the part of others.

22 posted on 10/13/2006 12:18:54 PM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: bornacatholic
Well, you really are wound up about this.
I think that your hyperbole is overwrought.
I said that JPII should not have kissed the Koran.
Period. It does no good to speculate on his motives. Most of your post is just silly, you know perfectly well that I would never say any of the frankly stupid things that you did.
I understand about Paul, and Mars Hill and the Christian belief that pagans can know truth. I would direct your attention to the scripture verse found in 2 Corinthians that says that we are to take every thought captive to Christ. I cannot see how embracing the object that contains the teachings of a false prophet can do any good. The reality is that it just confused people, Christians, Muslims and just about everyone else. It did nothing to advance that cause of Jesus as we can see that Islam has become more virulent, and is metastasizing, and the actions of the last pontiff certainly did not buy Christendom any good will!
24 posted on 10/13/2006 12:44:45 PM PDT by Bainbridge
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