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To: kosta50; Kolokotronis

And for all your claims of heresies cooperating with the Turk government and not demanding the return of Hagia Sophia was 'Sergeiism' long before the Soviets and said Patriarch. It takea lot of nerve to act unilaterally against other Patriarchs and sit warm and fuzzy with Muslims.

At least the Russian church can claim the new martyrs who refused to capitulate.


13 posted on 10/08/2006 10:39:46 PM PDT by kawaii
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To: kawaii; kosta50
"And for all your claims of heresies cooperating with the Turk government and not demanding the return of Hagia Sophia was 'Sergeiism' long before the Soviets and said Patriarch. It takea lot of nerve to act unilaterally against other Patriarchs and sit warm and fuzzy with Muslims.

At least the Russian church can claim the new martyrs who refused to capitulate"

God heavens! Sergianism?????? The role of the EP in the Turkish Empire was that of the Ethnarch of the Rum milliyet. He was hardly the head of an office of the Ottoman government. Do you honestly think that the EP could accomplish anything at all save perhaps being killed if he started trumpeting a demand for the return of Agia Sophia? And do you honestly think that non Russian Orthodox will hang their heads in shame by a comparison of 70 years of communist oppression in Russian with 500+ years of it under the Ottomans or, in the case of Egypt and the Holy Land 1300 years of it under the Mohammedans? No one, no one who is Orthodox would for one minute disparage the martyrdom of faithful Russians under demonic communism, but only a Russian chauvinist would presume to elevate that sacrifice above that of the rest of the Orthodox world!

Kawaii, so far as I know, you're not even Russian. Be careful of drinking too much of that green koolaide some Russian clerics and their American fellow travellers are handing out. They have an agenda.

15 posted on 10/09/2006 5:27:22 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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