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Centuries Old Relic (heart of St. John Vianney) Comes To U.S.
CBS ^ | October 5, 2006

Posted on 10/06/2006 10:41:30 AM PDT by NYer

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To: bwise515

The first Christians prayed and had their masses in the catacombs, not only for security but more importantly to be with and pray along with the deceased, "Those asleep in Christ".


41 posted on 10/08/2006 6:53:56 AM PDT by Nihil Obstat (viva il papa - be not afraid)
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I just don't see how a 150-year-old deacaying HUMAN HEART can be the source of worship or venerance?

It's not decaying...it's incorrupt, which is miraculous. And the word is veneration not venerance. Go read some history to see how the first Christians treated the bodies of the saints and martyrs of their time. Relics of a saint are still inlaid in every traditional Catholic permanent altar.

It just seems like an outdated religious ceremony, as many ceremonies are in that religion many of which have a shady background.

Nothing noble and just can ever be "outdated". The Church is timeless and is not at the whim of ever changing opinions of modern man. There are many practices that the Catholic Church retains because of their immense value despite the failure of modern man to appreciate them.

42 posted on 10/08/2006 6:41:40 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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There was a larger crowd than I expected. We had to wait about 25 minutes or so. The NYT was there, News 12 Long Island, an independent film crew, the diocesan newspaper and I think Newsday.

It was a beautiful old church, hardly wreck-ovated except for the altar of course, and the tabernacle off to the side.

The Knights of Columbus were there all decked out and it was very well organized. I think they had at least 3 separate places set up for confession and people were waiting in line for all of them. Just before entering the church, there were people handing out an information pamphlet about St. John Vinanney, relics, why we venerate them etc. and a little St. John Vianney medal which had been blessed.

Four people at a time were able to kneel before the relics at a time. No one stayed more than a few minutes, but many remained in the church and continued to pray.

The heart itself, although brownish in color was completely intact.

All in all it was a very moving experience.

43 posted on 10/08/2006 6:56:28 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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Thank you for posting the details. Wish I could have been there!


44 posted on 10/09/2006 12:35:18 AM PDT by NYer ("It is easier for the earth to exist without sun than without the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.” PPio)
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