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To: topcat54; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD

[Matt. 25] ... Y'shua is speaking about the Jews when he speaks of his brethren

Christ's brethren are those who believe in Him, and no other.

"And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, 'Here are My mother and My brothers! For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.' " (Matt12:49,50)

"Whoever receives Me receives Him who sent Me. For he who is least among you all will be great." (Luke 9:48)

"And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day." (John 6:40)

Whoever does not acknowldege Jesus is not doing the will of the Father, and consequently is not Christ's brethren.

"But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham;" (Rom. 9:6,7)

"As it is written: 'Behold, I lay in Zion a stumbling stone and rock of offense, And whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.'" (Rom. 9:33)

The trick is to look at what all the Bible says about "Israel", anmd to not make excuses for unbelieving "Zion". In reality these Karaites are merely stumbling over Jesus.

The will of God is not bound up in the shadowy law of the old covenant. The will of God is in seeing Jesus Christ as He is revealed supernaturally in the Scriptures through the power of the Spirit.

138 posted on 10/12/2006 12:11:14 PM MDT by topcat54

Re-read all of those verses you provided, where Y'shua speaks of doing what the Father commands.

Pray and ask for the Ru'ach haKodesh to illuminate the Word for you.

If you are not doing what the Father commands, you are not a brother of Y'shua.

Job looks forward to Y'shua (job 19:25-27)

The Karaites look forward to Y'shua, when He will come again to reign and rule.

b'shem Y'shua
143 posted on 10/12/2006 12:39:48 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 144:1 Praise be to YHvH, my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.)
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To: XeniaSt; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD
Re-read all of those verses you provided, where Y'shua speaks of doing what the Father commands. Pray and ask for the Ru'ach haKodesh to illuminate the Word for you. If you are not doing what the Father commands, you are not a brother of Y'shua. Job looks forward to Y'shua (job 19:25-27) The Karaites look forward to Y'shua, when He will come again to reign and rule.

Looks to me like you are reading Job but ignoring Paul. He makes it clear what is the condition of those in this present age who do not openly, verbally, and specifically acknowledge Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.

You see, it not a matter of following old covenant shadows to gain righteousness. It's purely a matter of believing in Jesus Christ.

I have already come to Christ by the Holy Spirit working in my life. I can read the plain words of Scripture and see the condition of the Karaites and all others who do not believe in Jesus. Today is the day of salvation. If a Karatire dies only to stand before the judgment throne of Almighty God clothed in their woen righteousness instead of the righteousness of Christ, they will suffer eternal torment in the lake of fire.

Sady, some Christians today cannot come to grips with that simple fact.

146 posted on 10/12/2006 1:14:54 PM PDT by topcat54
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