Posted on 09/27/2006 12:19:34 PM PDT by Gamecock
It's white & black. Sits on a base that has a flowery design with a gold colored border. The height is approximately 10 inches.
No, it really was taken from an obscure writing by a little known author who wrote an unheard of poem not well received by an insignificant but loyal therapy group.
He is in hell. He is bereft of the Holy Spirit so how can there be any good, noble, virtuous, humane or lofty sentiments? He has been left to the devices of his own god, himself, and his personality and nature are freed from the constricts of the "restrainer" or societal norms. He cares for nothing and nobody but himself. It is "all we like sheep have gone astray, we have turned every one to his own way" raised to the highest level.
That is a charming story. Thanks for telling it.
'welcome. :)
Thanks, Rev. I'm sure you meant that in a charitable way.
I have to agree with b-d on this one, AG.
Not very Wesleyan, but most likely true.
"I have to agree with b-d on this one, AG."
Oh nuts, hold everything AG, where did I go wrong. I'll have to take a second look at what I wrote.
I think it was right around the line about the cool heart...
And for the record, would you agree more with Wesley or Whitefield regarding this letter?
havent seen that one - I have the white china one - found it on ebay
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"George Whitefield was a renowned preacher, considered to be much more eloquent that John Wesley. He persuaded John Wesley to preach in the fields.
George Whitefield and John Wesley did not see eye-to-eye on a theology of grace however. In 1740 Wesley published "Free Grace," saying that Gods grace was extended to all. Wesley rejected the concept of divine election. Whitefield was a Calvinist. He once wrote, "God, himself, I find, teaches my friends the doctrine of election. If I mistake not, my dear and honored Mr. Wesley will hereafter be convinced of it also."
The two men were never to agree on divine election. Whitefield thought Wesley's was preaching universal redemption whereas Wesley thought Whitefield's preaching implied Christians need not take moral responsibility. They parted ways but managed, in the end, to maintain a respect for each other in that their hearts were the same in terms of unity in Jesus Christ.
After Whitefield's death, John Wesley preached a memorial sermon. Wesley said: "Let my last end be like his!" How many of you join in this wish? Perhaps there are few of you who do not, even in this numerous congregation! And O that this wish may rest upon your minds! -- that it may not die away till your souls also are lodged "where the wicked cease from troubling, and where the weary are at rest!"
I just pray for the grace both men had, like Paul,
Phil. 1:14, "And many of the brethren in the Lord, waxing confident by my bonds, are much more bold to speak the word without fear. Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will: The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds: But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel. What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice."
I THIRST, THOU WOUNDED LAMB OF GOD
The Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Revelation 13:8
I thirst, Thou wounded Lamb of God,
To wash me in Thy cleansing blood,
To dwell within Thy wounds; then pain
Is sweet, and life or death is gain.
Take this poor heart, and let it be
For ever closed to all but Thee!
Seal Thou my breast, and let me wear
That pledge of love for ever there.
How blest are they who still abide,
Close sheltered in Thy bleeding side;
Who life and strength from thence derive,
And by Thee move, and in Thee live.
What are our works, but sin and death,
Till Thou Thy quickening Spirit breathe?
Thou givst the power Thy grace to move;
O wondrous grace! O boundless love!
How can it be, Thou heavenly King,
That Thou shouldst us to glory bring;
Make slaves the partners of Thy throne,
Decked with a never-failing crown?
Hence our hearts melt, our eyes oerflow,
Our words are lost; nor will we know,
Nor will we think of aught beside,
My Lord, my Love, is crucified!
Ah! Lord, enlarge our scanty thought,
To know the wonders Thou hast wrought;
Unloose our stammering tongues to tell
Thy love immense, unsearchable.
First-born of many brethren, Thou!
To Thee, lo! all our souls we bow,
To Thee our hearts and hands we give,
Thine may we die, Thine may we live!
Probably as much as my Calvin Bobblehead!
I thirst, Thy Wounded Lamb of God, is beautiful.
The rich man, as a reprobate, was bound for hell while alive, and in that sense he was always part of hell. Still, the Westminster Confession allows that reprobates can do good things, and to extrapolate, have lofty feelings, but that because they are unregenerate, all good things they might do, any lofty sensibilities they might have are for naught because a reprobate is just that, and, as you put it, bereft of the Holy Spirit. So, I don't see how being in hell changes the dynamic I just described. If I gave the impression that I thought the rich man's sentiments had worth or were meritorious in any way, then I may have been wrong in that way. And, while they may be extrinsically lofty, but intrinsically worthless, whenever I envision hell, I never envision such sentiment as even being possible there, and I think that's why I made the initial comment.
What, no picture of the bobblehead?
We were thinking along the same lines. I thought he could make a bobblehead out of it and you two could have dueling bobbleheads. :)
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