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To: annalex
This is strictly by your own fallible reasoning.

It is not my reasoning along. You, of course, understand this puts Irenaeus squarely at odds with Augustine's, A Treatise on Predestination which you reject. Shall I start quoting that. We might as well pull this or that out of every writer. It won't matter because NONE of it is inspired writings.

Irenaeus statements are interesting but it really doesn't change anything. It only validates my point that in the western church two views were held. Irenaeus comments would not square with the Council of Oranges decrees.


20 posted on 09/28/2006 1:32:15 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD; topcat54
Irenaeus comments would not square with the Council of Oranges decrees.

If they did not square, then Irenaeus's view, as closer to the apostolic teaching, would have prevailed.

However, the contradiction between Irenaeus and Orange does not exist, as the quotation you chose shows. The contradiction is with Calvin's teaching on depravity of man and predestination of the reprobates.

22 posted on 09/28/2006 7:27:36 AM PDT by annalex
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