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To: LisaFab
Nor have I ever heard one state who can not be saved, vis a vis other Christians.

"There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved." (Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, 1215.)

"The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church." (Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441.)

This is infallible doctrine of the Church. Now you've heard it.

33 posted on 09/25/2006 4:25:55 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: murphE
Um, I never heard Pope Innocent III nor Pope Eugene IV; as in listened to them speak. Please notice that these citations you give were made before there was any other Church. All Catholics (or Christians), before the Great Enlightenment, believed that the Church was the body of Christ, (We believe that to this day) and that there is no other name under which we can be saved. And specifically that those who "know the gospel of Christ and his Church" (i.e. baptised Catholics) and then reject it, put their souls at risk.

Much better explanation of this here.

39 posted on 09/25/2006 4:55:24 PM PDT by LisaFab
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