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To: BelegStrongbow

You really touched upon something there.

As a cradle Catholic I feel strangely sad when I read these stories, because I realize that at some point large parts of the Anglican Communion, the ECUSA in particular, stopped being what Neuhaus would call "Catholics waiting to come home" (I intend no offense with this reference to anyone, just how I saw it) and have become something entirely unrecognizable.


8 posted on 09/21/2006 8:37:40 AM PDT by Cheverus
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To: Cheverus; Alia; AnAmericanMother

Well, you're right. I am a great devotee of Fr Neuhaus' work and ministry. I sympathize with him over the Novus Ordo and the Hymnal RCs use. I envy him the Magisterium. So we each have something the other could really use. That is to say, I really really prefer the full Missal text of the unexpurgated BCP, with the Gloria at the beginning, running from Introit to Final Blessing. One could intensify the Catholicity a little, but that would be to make unambiguously and perhaps even tediously explicit what is already beautifully and allusively almost one long hymn. As I read the Novus Ordo, the rite is not quite so explicit about consecration as is our allegedly Reformed text. People make much of Cranmer's gradual tilt to Calvinism, but it does not show in his BCP. It only showed up when Puritans got to change it later.

Thing is, we're really thin on the ground now. Many have simply swum the Tiber (such as AnAmericanMother, I believe, here in FR), some have contented themselves with vaguely Evangelical alternatives (Church of God, Assembly of God, etc.), and some have simply given up altogether. And we have not helped our own cause by not being able to reunite just within the Continuing Church movement.

All in all, a tragedy in so many ways. But, my own obedience strictly maintains the Apostolic Succession. We celebrate the sacraments (all seven of them) with the highest devotion and reverence. We observe the Vigils, the Octaves and the many days of the Saints. My own vicar has just compiled what may prove to be the definitive Kalendar of the Saints, at least for the Western Tradition. Our altars are still attached to the east wall. We kneel for worship and for Communion. We use the bells and smells. We pray for the unity of the Church, and that we may be a part of it.

The differences are tiny, truly, but it seems that even that much difference is made to be too much. I do not know what would constitute true charity in the case, but I truly believe that good can come from all we have endured.


10 posted on 09/21/2006 8:59:55 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (www.stjosephssanford.org)
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