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Darwin on the Right: Why Christians and conservatives should accept evolution
Scientific American ^ | October 2006 issue | Michael Shermer

Posted on 09/18/2006 1:51:27 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

According to a 2005 Pew Research Center poll, 70 percent of evangelical Christians believe that living beings have always existed in their present form, compared with 32 percent of Protestants and 31 percent of Catholics. Politically, 60 percent of Republicans are creationists, whereas only 11 percent accept evolution, compared with 29 percent of Democrats who are creationists and 44 percent who accept evolution. A 2005 Harris Poll found that 63 percent of liberals but only 37 percent of conservatives believe that humans and apes have a common ancestry. What these figures confirm for us is that there are religious and political reasons for rejecting evolution. Can one be a conservative Christian and a Darwinian? Yes. Here's how.

1. Evolution fits well with good theology. Christians believe in an omniscient and omnipotent God. What difference does it make when God created the universe--10,000 years ago or 10,000,000,000 years ago? The glory of the creation commands reverence regardless of how many zeroes in the date. And what difference does it make how God created life--spoken word or natural forces? The grandeur of life's complexity elicits awe regardless of what creative processes were employed. Christians (indeed, all faiths) should embrace modern science for what it has done to reveal the magnificence of the divine in a depth and detail unmatched by ancient texts.

2. Creationism is bad theology. The watchmaker God of intelligent-design creationism is delimited to being a garage tinkerer piecing together life out of available parts. This God is just a genetic engineer slightly more advanced than we are. An omniscient and omnipotent God must be above such humanlike constraints. As Protestant theologian Langdon Gilkey wrote, "The Christian idea, far from merely representing a primitive anthropomorphic projection of human art upon the cosmos, systematically repudiates all direct analogy from human art." Calling God a watchmaker is belittling.

3. Evolution explains original sin and the Christian model of human nature. As a social primate, we evolved within-group amity and between-group enmity. By nature, then, we are cooperative and competitive, altruistic and selfish, greedy and generous, peaceful and bellicose; in short, good and evil. Moral codes and a society based on the rule of law are necessary to accentuate the positive and attenuate the negative sides of our evolved nature.

4. Evolution explains family values. The following characteristics are the foundation of families and societies and are shared by humans and other social mammals: attachment and bonding, cooperation and reciprocity, sympathy and empathy, conflict resolution, community concern and reputation anxiety, and response to group social norms. As a social primate species, we evolved morality to enhance the survival of both family and community. Subsequently, religions designed moral codes based on our evolved moral natures.

5. Evolution accounts for specific Christian moral precepts. Much of Christian morality has to do with human relationships, most notably truth telling and marital fidelity, because the violation of these principles causes a severe breakdown in trust, which is the foundation of family and community. Evolution describes how we developed into pair-bonded primates and how adultery violates trust. Likewise, truth telling is vital for trust in our society, so lying is a sin.

6. Evolution explains conservative free-market economics. Charles Darwin's "natural selection" is precisely parallel to Adam Smith's "invisible hand." Darwin showed how complex design and ecological balance were unintended consequences of competition among individual organisms. Smith showed how national wealth and social harmony were unintended consequences of competition among individual people. Nature's economy mirrors society's economy. Both are designed from the bottom up, not the top down.

Because the theory of evolution provides a scientific foundation for the core values shared by most Christians and conservatives, it should be embraced. The senseless conflict between science and religion must end now, or else, as the Book of Proverbs (11:29) warned: "He that troubleth his own house shall inherit the wind."


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To: ml1954
It's also a wonderment how they try to say they aren't saying science is a religion when they say evolution is a religion, when much of evidence for evolution comes from physics, genetics, geology, etc.

They are entirely anti-science. They reject science as a method; they reject the findings of physics, astronomy, geology, chemistry — the works. When one of them asserts the sun revolves around the earth, not one of them has the guts to step in. When one of them says slavery is morally OK, not one of them has the guts to step in. When one of them says you cannot start an evolving colony of bacteria with a single organism, not one of them has the guts to step in.

They are clueless, gutless, completely ignorant of the methods and findings of the entire spectrum of science.

621 posted on 09/20/2006 11:39:18 AM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: My2Cents
Their dogmatism is actually an insult to science.

We know that the theory of evolution is false and that creationism is true because biologists are constantly changing the theory whenever they find new evidence, but the book of Genesis never changes.

We also know that evolution is false and "nothing but a religion" because evolutionary biologists are so dogmatic, and this entrenched dogmatism is an insult to science.

And around we go.

622 posted on 09/20/2006 11:43:29 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: js1138
A personal relationship with Jesus does not impel spouting nonsense. In fact, it suggests no political or intellectual action at all. Just treating other people with love and respect.

Don't confuse theory with practice.

623 posted on 09/20/2006 11:44:27 AM PDT by balrog666 (Ignorance is never better than knowledge. - Enrico Fermi)
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To: js1138

They are entirely anti-science. They reject science as a method; they reject the findings of physics, astronomy, geology, chemistry — the works....

They are clueless, gutless, completely ignorant of the methods and findings of the entire spectrum of science.

And then, to top it all off and completely insult everyone else's intelligence, they deny all of this.

624 posted on 09/20/2006 11:45:17 AM PDT by ml1954 (ID = Case closed....no further inquiry allowed...now move along.)
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To: presently no screen name
God' Word was for us. He's not the author of confusion. The Holy Spirit brings light unto His Word. As The Bible states - ask for HIS wisdom and discernment.

But his word is in Hebrew, not in English. I am dependent on translators and commentators, who may or may not be guided by God's wisdom.

However, inasmuch as God may or may not have granted me insight, I have learned that the word for "formed" in Genesis 2:7, as in "The Lord formed man from the dust of the earth," means to shape as a potter does. My understanding of pottery is that it is not created by the material instantly taking form, but that it is shaped and molded over time.

My understanding of that passage is, therefore, that God did not create man in an instant, but did so over a period of time, in which man had earlier, cruder forms. To me, this is an excellent metaphor for evolution. Better: To me, this is God's word declaring that evolution was the method He used to create man.

625 posted on 09/20/2006 11:47:44 AM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian ("Don't take life so seriously. You'll never get out of it alive." -- Bugs Bunny)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian

A potter's wheel. The lathe of heaven. Evolution.

Interesting.


626 posted on 09/20/2006 11:49:39 AM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: RadioAstronomer
'deities' is a word to lump in many gods. There is only ONE God; therefore it dismisses The ONE True God and replaces it with many gods. It's deception.

Evolution does not alienate God as you state. Evolution does not address God either for or against

If evolution doesn't address God either for or against, it mostly certainly is alienating GOD when it speaks about HIS creation.
627 posted on 09/20/2006 11:58:27 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
There is only ONE God

Please support this claim with evidence.

If evolution doesn't address God either for or against, it mostly certainly is alienating GOD when it speaks about HIS creation.

This is not a logical conclusion. No scientific theory addresses God. Are you saying that all scientific theories alienate GOD? All of them address some subset of the universe, which -- according to many monotheists -- is His creation.
628 posted on 09/20/2006 12:02:38 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: presently no screen name
'deities' is a word to lump in many gods. There is only ONE God; therefore it dismisses The ONE True God and replaces it with many gods. It's deception.

False. Since there are a number of religions that worship multiple deities, the term deity is the correct term. Just because you believe there is only one God, does not make your belief any more pertinent than a theology that believes in multiple deities.

If evolution doesn't address God either for or against, it mostly certainly is alienating GOD when it speaks about HIS creation.

I do not address God when I am describing soil erosion. So is an epitome on soil erosion alienating God when it does not address God?

629 posted on 09/20/2006 12:12:33 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian

Who is the potter, and who the Pot?

(Fitzgerald, after Khayam)


630 posted on 09/20/2006 12:12:36 PM PDT by Thatcherite (I'm PatHenry I'm the real PatHenry all the other PatHenrys are just imitators)
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To: My2Cents

assuming is seldom the wiser course. no problem - just puzzled. thank you for clearing that up


631 posted on 09/20/2006 12:21:40 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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To: My2Cents
"Unless the science is a pseudoscience and the interpretation of the "evidence" is driven by a philosophical worldview. I think keeping a thread on evolution in the religion forum is quite appropriate."

Which of the fields of science that contribute to the SToE do you consider to be pseudoscience?

632 posted on 09/20/2006 12:27:59 PM PDT by b_sharp (Objectivity? Objectivity? We don't need no stinkin' objectivity.)
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To: Dimensio
According to your posts, you do not believe in the Holy Word of God but believe in dead darwin's word. Your choice. And you can thank God for the free will He gave us.

You said "GOD". That is a subset of the set of all claimed deities

There is only ONE true GOD and HE is not the subset of anything. How blasphemous!

It is not acceptable to say I am "incorrect" when you have no knowledge of what I speak.

How then should I respond when you make a statement that is not true?

My statement may not be true TO YOU, but that does not make my statement "NOT TRUE" nor "Incorrect". It's not true according to your beliefs, your philosophy, your religion and/or lack thereof.

But God is still God, always was and always will be!! And Jesus reigns forever and ever!!

While you evolve, I will stand firm!
633 posted on 09/20/2006 12:28:16 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

Discuss the issues all you want, but do NOT make it personal.


634 posted on 09/20/2006 12:29:37 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Warrior of Justice
" Either you believe that things evolved by CHANCE/ACCIDENT over time OR there is a DESIGNER. It CAN'T be both ways."

Evolution depends solely on the nature and properties inherent in the physics. There is no chance, no accident and their is no designer.

635 posted on 09/20/2006 12:30:05 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: My2Cents
"I think keeping a thread on evolution in the religion forum is quite appropriate."

Evolution is a subject contained within biological science, for the most part. It includes biochemistry in paritcular. In no way is it a religion, nor does it belong in the class of religion.

636 posted on 09/20/2006 12:34:53 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: presently no screen name
...it mostly certainly is alienating GOD when it speaks about HIS creation.

And yet you take the word of men over the creation itself. Science studies the word of God directly. You worship an icon, one of hundreds of conflicting stories that have, in the course of history, been responsible for genocides, wars, murders, and torture in the name of God.

Unless God has spoken the text of the bible directly toy, you are reading the word of men.

637 posted on 09/20/2006 12:35:07 PM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: My2Cents
"That "evolution" can give rise to new species has never been proven, has never been shown in a lab or in the fossil record, and it is only the interpretation and extrapolation of the evidence for micro-evolution to the macro- that gives any credence to the overall Darwinist view.

I take it you are denying that modern Cetaceans have evolved from land animals despite the number of transitional fossils, genome comparisons and the occasional whale with hind legs?

How about Archaeopteryx? Most creationists tend to place Archaeopteryx in with all birds. If this is the case then the change from the archaic bird 'Archaeopteryx' to modern birds must be nothing but micro evolution. Is this what you believe? If not where do you place Archy?

638 posted on 09/20/2006 12:41:33 PM PDT by b_sharp (Objectivity? Objectivity? We don't need no stinkin' objectivity.)
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To: RadioAstronomer
the term deity is the correct term.

To those that want to alienate The God of The Universe, of course it is.

I do not address God when I am describing soil erosion

No one said you had to. The Creator gave us soil for our benefit with His marvelous creation. Enjoy the air, the sunlight, the rain, the soil, the trees, the animals, mankind, the stars. God is good.
639 posted on 09/20/2006 12:41:55 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
According to your posts, you do not believe in the Holy Word of God but believe in dead darwin's word.

You have yet to demonstrate that your claims are representative of the content of the "Holy Word of God".

There is only ONE true GOD

I have repeatedly asked you to substantiate this claim. You have yet to do so. Why should I belive your claims?

and HE is not the subset of anything. How blasphemous!

You are incorrect. There exist a large number of claimed deities worshipped and acknowledged throughout human history. The God that you claim exists is one of these deities. As such, the God that you claim exists is a subset of all gods who have been claimed to exist. Claiming that reality is "blasphemous" does not alter reality.

It is not acceptable to say I am "incorrect" when you have no knowledge of what I speak.

You are correct. That is why I have limited such statements to responses to statements that you have made, and I have not stated that claims that you have not made are inaccurate. This does not change the fact that many of the statements that you have made previously are not true.

My statement may not be true TO YOU, but that does not make my statement "NOT TRUE" nor "Incorrect". It's not true according to your beliefs, your philosophy, your religion and/or lack thereof.

Actually, many of your statements are demonstratably contradictory to reality. My religious beliefs, or lack thereof, are not relevant to the truth value of the incorrect claims that you have made.

But God is still God, always was and always will be!! And Jesus reigns forever and ever!!

Please explain how this supports your previous claims. Please also provide evidence to support this specific claim.
640 posted on 09/20/2006 12:44:14 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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