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Darwin on the Right: Why Christians and conservatives should accept evolution
Scientific American ^ | October 2006 issue | Michael Shermer

Posted on 09/18/2006 1:51:27 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

According to a 2005 Pew Research Center poll, 70 percent of evangelical Christians believe that living beings have always existed in their present form, compared with 32 percent of Protestants and 31 percent of Catholics. Politically, 60 percent of Republicans are creationists, whereas only 11 percent accept evolution, compared with 29 percent of Democrats who are creationists and 44 percent who accept evolution. A 2005 Harris Poll found that 63 percent of liberals but only 37 percent of conservatives believe that humans and apes have a common ancestry. What these figures confirm for us is that there are religious and political reasons for rejecting evolution. Can one be a conservative Christian and a Darwinian? Yes. Here's how.

1. Evolution fits well with good theology. Christians believe in an omniscient and omnipotent God. What difference does it make when God created the universe--10,000 years ago or 10,000,000,000 years ago? The glory of the creation commands reverence regardless of how many zeroes in the date. And what difference does it make how God created life--spoken word or natural forces? The grandeur of life's complexity elicits awe regardless of what creative processes were employed. Christians (indeed, all faiths) should embrace modern science for what it has done to reveal the magnificence of the divine in a depth and detail unmatched by ancient texts.

2. Creationism is bad theology. The watchmaker God of intelligent-design creationism is delimited to being a garage tinkerer piecing together life out of available parts. This God is just a genetic engineer slightly more advanced than we are. An omniscient and omnipotent God must be above such humanlike constraints. As Protestant theologian Langdon Gilkey wrote, "The Christian idea, far from merely representing a primitive anthropomorphic projection of human art upon the cosmos, systematically repudiates all direct analogy from human art." Calling God a watchmaker is belittling.

3. Evolution explains original sin and the Christian model of human nature. As a social primate, we evolved within-group amity and between-group enmity. By nature, then, we are cooperative and competitive, altruistic and selfish, greedy and generous, peaceful and bellicose; in short, good and evil. Moral codes and a society based on the rule of law are necessary to accentuate the positive and attenuate the negative sides of our evolved nature.

4. Evolution explains family values. The following characteristics are the foundation of families and societies and are shared by humans and other social mammals: attachment and bonding, cooperation and reciprocity, sympathy and empathy, conflict resolution, community concern and reputation anxiety, and response to group social norms. As a social primate species, we evolved morality to enhance the survival of both family and community. Subsequently, religions designed moral codes based on our evolved moral natures.

5. Evolution accounts for specific Christian moral precepts. Much of Christian morality has to do with human relationships, most notably truth telling and marital fidelity, because the violation of these principles causes a severe breakdown in trust, which is the foundation of family and community. Evolution describes how we developed into pair-bonded primates and how adultery violates trust. Likewise, truth telling is vital for trust in our society, so lying is a sin.

6. Evolution explains conservative free-market economics. Charles Darwin's "natural selection" is precisely parallel to Adam Smith's "invisible hand." Darwin showed how complex design and ecological balance were unintended consequences of competition among individual organisms. Smith showed how national wealth and social harmony were unintended consequences of competition among individual people. Nature's economy mirrors society's economy. Both are designed from the bottom up, not the top down.

Because the theory of evolution provides a scientific foundation for the core values shared by most Christians and conservatives, it should be embraced. The senseless conflict between science and religion must end now, or else, as the Book of Proverbs (11:29) warned: "He that troubleth his own house shall inherit the wind."


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To: Warrior of Justice
1. The LAW of Gravity: what goes up must come down.

You are incorrect. The Law of Gravity is F=G*(m1m2/r2). It is not proven. In fact, it is known to be inaccurate.

That was proven even by Sky-Lab!

You are wrong. Skylab did not "prove" the Law of Grawity.

2. BUT IF "Absolutely NO scientific claims are proven" then WHY do you put so much stock in the "Ever-Changing World Of Evo-Mythologly"?

Scientific theories can be well-supported by evidence, establing high confidence in them.

As to the carbon dating snit, I've answered that as many times as I care to.

This does not change the fact that your claims were demonstratably false.
1,182 posted on 09/22/2006 7:46:49 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Warrior of Justice
- You can explain/clarify if you so desire.

Ask me again tomorrow and I will be glad to explain some of the details of radiocarbon dating. This thread tonight has sunk to lows I don't want to associate with.

1,184 posted on 09/22/2006 7:53:33 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Warrior of Justice
1. Evolution is a MYTH because there is NO uniformity in the dates, interpretation of the "evidence", and NO uniformity in the STORY of evolution.

Please show that this claim is true.

2. I have. But you're too busy choosing blindeness to evidence that you missed/ignored it. Example: Remember this- Over 330 prophecies concerning The Messiah's first advent- ALL fulfilled BY/IN Christ Jesus. There was more but you ignored it then too.


Please demonstrate that the prophecies were actually fulfilled.
1,187 posted on 09/22/2006 7:54:12 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: andysandmikesmom
Indeed...when someone has to use all caps, sorry, but I just skim right over it...

Exactly. I used the same strategy once for posts written in blue.

1,188 posted on 09/22/2006 7:54:17 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: PatrickHenry

Is this thread still in the Religion Forum?


1,189 posted on 09/22/2006 7:54:25 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: Warrior of Justice
- By "demonsttratably false" you mean your OPINION is "better" than mine.

It is not my "OPINION" that carbon dating cannot produce a date of "millions of years", it is a fact. You made a statement about carbon dating that is not true. You made a demonstratably false claim. This is fact, not opinion.
1,190 posted on 09/22/2006 7:55:33 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Warrior of Justice
- I HAVE...keep reading.

You have made vague assertions, but you have made no specific claims, nor have you provided evidence that your vague assertions are true.
1,191 posted on 09/22/2006 7:56:31 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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If I Only Had A Brain Placemarker.


1,192 posted on 09/22/2006 7:56:57 PM PDT by ml1954 (ID = Case closed....no further inquiry allowed...now move along.)
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To: js1138
We have a guy, an intelligent, literate guy on FR, arguing geocentrism.

LOL. Where was this? I guess it was only a matter of time...

1,193 posted on 09/22/2006 7:59:18 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: Warrior of Justice
- Huh?!! You think there IS ONLY ONE UNIVERSAL MYTH of evolution and that all it's BELIEVERS are in 100% conformity to it in all it's deatails?!!

I have asked you to provide evidence of your claim. You have not done so.

- Goodness gracious! The evos have changed the dates of specific happenings with the frequency that excells the times they change their underdraws.

When has this happened? Provide an example of such a change.

- Later "scientists" refuted/retracted the BOGUS claim that that woman was the "first mother of mankind"..wow!

When was this refuted and/or retracted? Please provide a specific reference.

- And I've ALREADY answered the DNA "question" LOTS. Go to my links and READ something.

You have provided absolutely no specific explanation as to how DNA evidence refutes evolution. You have made vague assertions that have no relevance to DNA evidence. You are making demonstratably false claims again.
1,197 posted on 09/22/2006 8:06:36 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Coyoteman
But for a layman to tell working archaeologists what they have or have not found is another.

How do ya think I feel when these guys say the "DNA evidence disproves evolution"?

1,199 posted on 09/22/2006 8:08:07 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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