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Chaplain convicted of saying prayers 'in Jesus' name'
VirtueOnline-News ^ | 9/14/2004 | WorldNetDaily.com

Posted on 09/14/2006 7:23:51 PM PDT by sionnsar

A military jury today convicted a Navy chaplain of a misdemeanor count of disobeying his commanding officer for wearing his uniform while delivering a prayer "in Jesus' name" at an assembly in front of the White House.

"But I had prior written permission to wear my uniform if it was a religious observance, (so) prayers are not a religious observance," Lt. Gordon James Klingenschmitt told WND after the military court-martial recessed for the night.

"Therefore I disobeyed my commanding officer's order not to pray in uniform," he said.

Klingenschmitt, who raised immediate concerns with this superiors when the Navy issued a new order that prayers could only be "non-sectarian," also has alleged he was punished for raising those concerns, and later notifying Congress and President Bush of the situation.

Klingenschmitt told WND that his lawyer rested the case without calling any witnesses, one of whom was scheduled to be former Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore, because of the Biblical injunction in Isaiah, where the prophecy about Jesus says he "was oppressed and afflicted yet he did not open his mouth."

Klingenschmitt told WND that there is an appeal process that will be pursued, up to the U.S. Supreme Court if needed.

The five-officer military jury is scheduled to return to work on Thursday to determine what punishment, if any, Klingenschmitt should receive.

"I do respect the verdict of my peers. I am a humble man and respect the authority of the jury. I do not respect the authority of the military judge who declared worshipping in public is not the same as public worship," he said.

Judge Moore, who lost his own job over his refusal to obey a federal judge's order that conflicted with constitutional authority and remove a Ten Commandments monument from the Alabama Supreme Court building, had been set to testifying about the White House assembly where he and Klingenschmitt were.

Moore, also a columnist for WND, said, "When the Legislature of Indiana or a chaplain in the Navy, Army or Air Force says a prayer in the name of Jesus, no religion is being established and no religious freedom is abused. On the contrary, the religious freedom enjoyed by all our people is being exercised in the finest American tradition."

Klingenschmitt had pleaded not guilty yesterday.

As WND reported, Klingenschmitt was at the White House March 30 with Moore to protest Navy policy requiring non-sectarian prayers outside of worship services.

Klingenschmitt had been ordered not to wear his uniform during media appearances without permission, unless he was conducting a "bona fide worship service." The chaplain, ordained in the Evangelical Episcopal Church, has said the March 30 event qualified.

Klingenschmitt could forfeit two-thirds of his pay per month for one year and receive a reprimand as punishment.

The chaplain also is promoting a bill in Congress he says aims to overrule a policy passed by the secretary of the Navy that requires non-sectarian prayers.

The Navy secretary, Klingenschmitt said, is "deliberately censoring the content of our prayers."

This court martial, he said, was over that new Navy policy.

The judge, refusing Klingenschmitt's motion earlier this month to drop the case, concluded chaplains are protected only inside the chapel on Sunday morning. If ordered not to worship in public, and they disobey, chaplains can be punished at a criminal court martial.

"There is no more fundamental right than the inalienable right to worship our creator, and I pray in Jesus name," Klingenschmitt said. "For any government official to require non-sectarian prayers is for him to enforce his government religion upon me, to censor exclude and punish me for my participation."

Several dozen other chaplains also have joined in a civilian lawsuit that alleges the Navy hierarchy allows only those Christian ministers who advocate only non-sectarian blandishments to be promoted. Those with evangelical beliefs, they say, are routinely drummed from the Navy.

Janet Folger, president of Faith2Action told WND she couldn't even express the horror of such an outcome.

"If they can silence a chaplain, they'll come after you next," she told WND. "The Navy has ruled that chaplains have just one hour of freedom of religion on Sunday morning."

Folger, the author of "The Criminalization of Christianity," said what is incomprehensible is that the judge concluded that public worship is not the same and worshipping in public.

"While our soldiers fight for freedom abroad, our own chaplains are facing court martial for praying for them," said Folger. "Where does the Constitution say that freedom of religion is limited to one hour?"


TOPICS: Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: christophobia; janetfolger; klingenschmitt

1 posted on 09/14/2006 7:23:51 PM PDT by sionnsar
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To: sionnsar; trussell; kristinn; PilloryHillary; The Mayor; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; ALOHA RONNIE

Several dozen other chaplains also have joined in a civilian lawsuit that alleges the Navy hierarchy allows only those Christian ministers who advocate only non-sectarian blandishments to be promoted....

"While our soldiers fight for freedom abroad, our own chaplains are facing court martial for praying for them,"




2 posted on 09/14/2006 7:31:12 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: sionnsar

Is there any common sense left in America?


3 posted on 09/14/2006 7:33:06 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776

No.


4 posted on 09/14/2006 8:06:50 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: All; The Spirit Of Allegiance

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The Words:

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5 posted on 09/14/2006 8:25:13 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: sionnsar

The death of decency...2006...when a CHAPLAIN gets fined!!!


6 posted on 09/14/2006 8:53:02 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: sionnsar; xzins
The headline is misleading. He was convicted of wearing his uniform while participating in a political rally.

This has been posted at least twice before.

7 posted on 09/14/2006 9:02:59 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: sionnsar
"I am a humble man and respect the authority of the jury"

There's our open door folks ... what's it called ? ... juror nullification?
Or something like that.

The public needs to be made aware.

Can the explanation of juror nullification be published in a paper without penalty?

8 posted on 09/14/2006 9:30:22 PM PDT by knarf (Sevices for my lost, now considered deceased, tagline at 2 PM .. all welcome.)
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To: knarf
Correction ! JURY nullification
9 posted on 09/14/2006 9:32:10 PM PDT by knarf (Sevices for my lost, now considered deceased, tagline at 2 PM .. all welcome.)
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To: knarf; P-Marlowe; sionnsar; xzins
"Juror nullification" conjurs up such images ~ this "In Jesus Name" issue, though, has been around for a while in a variety of guises.

I've long concluded that the folks who get upset at the idea that anyone who says "In Jesus Name" is being sectarian simply don't understand what "sectarianism" is all about, and are probably, themselves, deep into "word magic". That's the othrwise obscure religious idea that you can "bind God with a word".

Primitive shamen in the far North or out in the middle of trackless tropical jungles share that belief.

Not sure their sensitivities should be a prime directive for our society though.

This particular situation will probably end up before the Supreme Court and we'll get to find out if Justice Kennedy stayed awake in cathechism class. He'll tell us if Evangelicals have a monopoly on the expression.

10 posted on 09/15/2006 6:07:03 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Whew!
Pretty amazing post .... and home page.
11 posted on 09/15/2006 6:20:22 AM PDT by knarf (Sevices for my lost, now considered deceased, tagline at 2 PM .. all welcome.)
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