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To: siunevada

From your link:

http://how2fish.blogspot.com/2006/09/donut-man-should-make-us-think.html

Howard Fisher said...
Tiber,

1) Thanks for the list of names. I already hinted at in my original post that they mean nothing. Should I reproduce a list of names in reverse? Would that prove anything?

2) "You can ask me how I have peace with God if you want."

The one thing I asked for, you didn't provide. You simply do not have peace with God. Although I am sure you think so. It is however, not a biblical peace. Without the Imputation of Christ's righteousness, Paul plainly teaches you have no peace.

3) "I suspect he thought about this a bit before converting..."

I am sure he did. I have found men convert for all kinds of reasons. Then they often respond to Protestant doctrines like Sola Scriptura as being unbiblical. Yet their desription of those doctrines are never correct. So they leave not knowing with accuracy what they are rejecting.

4) Anonymous wants to be obedient. Yet I must ask. Is this interpretation of John 6 his private interpretation? Rome has never taught John 6 to say what he says it says.

Perhaps I need to start another sacrament. I will get a door with a doorknob and a dead bolt. Then I will get a priest to bless the door so that it actually becomes the Door of Christ. Then I will walk through it. Since Jesus claims to be a door, wouldn't that work too?

John 6 is one of my favorite passages. It strikes me that you will interpret that portion of that passage in such a fashion and also ignore the exegesis provided by Reformed Protestants.

What in essence you have done is accept the final authority of Rome's dogmatics as the governing interpretive lense. You simply are not allowed the text of god's Word to speak. In other words, you must by definition force Rome's teachings into Scripture.

5) I must ask you both if you were truly Protestants. Did you believe in penal substitutionary atonement? Do you still do so? If so, you are in rebellion against Rome's teaching.

Perhaps my original question should be asked. Who is the Blessed man of Romans 4? Do you have peace with God? On what basis do you claim to have this peace?


47 posted on 09/15/2006 7:36:46 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: fishtank

I am the tiber jumper who posted the blog about Rob Evans. My children listened to his music and we enjoyed his ministry of helping kids get to know more about Jesus, I posted about him because I am a new convert (actually a revert) to Catholicism after 30 years of protestantism, and want to share the news:
Jesus is changing lives through the Catholic Church as he has been for 2000 years. I am also a musician so the Donut Man's conversion story was near and dear to me.
I have found true godly peace in the Catholic faith that I am very thankful for. I am thankful for the years spent with devout protestants who love Jesus and his word and I am grieved over the separation that still exists between protestant and catholic brethren. God bless you all. Jesus prayed that we might one.
www.crossed-the-tiber.blogspot.com


48 posted on 09/15/2006 8:38:13 PM PDT by tiber jumper
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