To: bigcat32
You beg the question about Sola Scripture, which asserts that the literal text of Scripture must be cited for each doctrine. However, the doctrine of the saints in heaven is taken for granted in the Apocalypse(Revelations), where the martyrs demand justice. To explain this away, Protestants have to resort to the doctrine of the "Great Sleep," where the death lie unconscious until the Resurrection, and the events that John relates apply only to the End Times. But even they do not deny that the relations we share with one another disappear with death. If I can ask my mother for help, and to pray for me when I am away from her, why not after she is is with God?
32 posted on
09/08/2006 6:37:55 AM PDT by
RobbyS
( CHIRHO)
To: RobbyS
I believe I understand your point however praying to someone or something other than God is specifically addressed scripturally. Where is the line drawn between "asking for help" and worship? What's wrong with prayer to The Father through The Son?
38 posted on
09/08/2006 7:03:38 AM PDT by
bigcat32
To: RobbyS
~~~~~If I can ask my mother for help, and to pray for me when I am away from her, why not after she is is with God?~~~~~
If you build a statue of your mother and kneel in front of it, it is worship...
On this site, http://www.marypages.com/PrayerstoMary.htm, there are a bunch of 'authorized' prayers to Mary...Throughout these prayers Mary is Glorified, Deified, ask to perform miracles of her own, bring answered prayers to people, grant prayers, etc...
You have turned Mary into a Goddess...
43 posted on
09/08/2006 7:23:18 AM PDT by
Iscool
To: RobbyS; bigcat32
You beg the question about Sola Scripture, which asserts that the literal text of Scripture must be cited for each doctrine.
Robby you know better than that. Very few, if any, "Protestants" make such an assertion.
More like this maybe:
Augustine "Contra litteras Petiliana", (Against the Letters of Petiliana) Bk.3, ch.6:
"If anyone preaches either concerning Christ or concerning His church or concerning any other matter which pertains to our faith and life; I will not say, if we, but what Paul adds, if an angel from heaven should preach to you anything besides what you have received in the Scriptures of the Law and the Gospels, let him be anathema."
84 posted on
09/08/2006 9:33:08 AM PDT by
OLD REGGIE
(I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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