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To: topcat54

My point remains.

And you and those who believe as you do can pose and posture and be pretenders with all your "proof". I find the compliment extraordinary that you so much want to be us.

The only problem occurs when- as happened often over 2000 years- those of you sharing the same religious fervor, believing that you have replaced us, decide that you can't really pretend to be us as long as we are present and eternal and prove the truth by our existence. That's when you have frequently decided that you must get rid of us physically.

And yet we are still here. We are and will always be Israel. And you are not.


18 posted on 09/04/2006 9:38:16 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Bush Doctrine- Old: Fight terrorists. New: Cease fire with terrorists.)
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To: Sabramerican; topcat54; xzins
According to demographic reports, due to intermarriage and lapsed faith, the number of Jews is dwindling with blinding speed.

I think this is a terrible situation. Jews do not start wars; Jews do not slaughter millions for the sake of fables; Jews can actually live in co-existence with their ideological enemies.

But don't make the error that it's Christians who encourage your demise. Christians of all stripes view the Jews as their root stock.

My prayer is for all Jews to become Christian. But short of that, if the world became 100% Jewish overnight, it wouldn't be a bad thing.

19 posted on 09/04/2006 10:13:10 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Sabramerican
And yet we are still here. We are and will always be Israel. And you are not.

As I said your argument is not with me but with the Messiah of Israel, Jesus of Nazareth. It is to Him that you must answer.

"Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, "Men and brethren, what shall we do?" Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call." (Acts 2:37-39)

21 posted on 09/04/2006 11:32:14 AM PDT by topcat54
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To: Sabramerican
And yet we are still here. We are and will always be Israel. And you are not.

Sounds like an exclusive Greenwich country club. :) Of course, this near Atheist does not have much use for those Christians who think they are acheiving something useful or good by detaching Jews from their religious beliefs. Sure they mean well, but then so many do, who sometimes end up achieving the opposite. The term hubris comes to mind. I am probably missing the point of all of this in any event, and am just wasting bandwidth.

22 posted on 09/04/2006 1:07:25 PM PDT by Torie
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