Considering that many of these churches do not have formal "membership" rolls, but instead base their growth on simple attendance, one has to wonder if "growth" is actually occuring.
To: WKB
Might be worth a baptist ping.
2 posted on
09/01/2006 7:17:34 AM PDT by
JamesP81
("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
To: Alex Murphy
I shouldn't criticize, but I've never been overly fond of the 'megachurch' phenomenon or, frankly, some of the teaching that comes out of them. It almost has the feel of some kind of a fashion fad, except for theology instead of clothes. Maybe I'm off base here, it's just how I see it. There's too much emphasis on this corporate style church leadership, and I don't know how good that is for a church in general. I also don't care for the fact that I can go to a lot of these smaller churches modeled on churches like Lakewood and hear teaching from a myriad of books, most of which aren't necessarily bad books, moreso sometimes than I hear it from the Bible.
One of the things I love about my church is that when my pastor preaches, he preaches from the Word, 100% of the time.
3 posted on
09/01/2006 7:22:31 AM PDT by
JamesP81
("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
To: Alex Murphy
I've watched Osteen a few times and I've likened it to listening to self-help, motivational speakers. Most of my friends who also subscribe to the "Gospel of Oprah" are regular Osteen watchers.
CC&E
To: Alex Murphy
Considering that many of these churches do not have formal "membership" rolls, but instead base their growth on simple attendance, one has to wonder if "growth" is actually occuring. I think attendance is probably a better measurement than membership rolls. Churches are very reluctant to remove you from membership, even if they haven't seen you in ten years.
7 posted on
09/01/2006 8:27:18 AM PDT by
Dog Gone
To: Alex Murphy
Mine gained 1.8 million. :^D (*snark*)
11 posted on
09/01/2006 9:46:29 AM PDT by
dangus
To: Alex Murphy
Park Cities, as a member of the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA)has strong membership requirements so their numbers are accurate, not inflated.
To: Alex Murphy
Osteen is on the Discovery Channel for a half hour Sunday morning. It's a good message. I bet this article is accurate.
14 posted on
09/01/2006 10:03:07 AM PDT by
Vision
(God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but a spirit of power, love and self-discipline 2Timothy1)
To: Alex Murphy
The mega churches are worse than circuses. Worse.
To: Alex Murphy
Just think, Alex, if we ever go to a
theonomy, Lakewood will be electing our representatives, Osteen will be president and criticism of his teachings will be blasphemy. Sure you don't wanna just be happy with a more-or-less laissez-faire constitutional republic? :-)
To: Alex Murphy
In 2005, Lakewood, led by Joel Osteen, gained a total of 12,000 members. He doesn't have a congregation, he has an audience.
27 posted on
09/05/2006 2:11:51 PM PDT by
aomagrat
(Just when you think you have it made in the shade, the tree falls on you.)
To: Alex Murphy
Ah yes.....the "numbers game".
Unfortunately, "growth" in the spiritual life is not measured by butts on seats. It's measured by the fruit which the Word produces in the daily lives of its listeners.
The true Gospel is spread in obscurity one person at a time, away from the glare of TV lights and instigated by example.
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