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To: P-Marlowe; TomSmedley; Dr. Eckleburg; xzins; Buggman; Quix; topcat54; blue-duncan; ...

I can't imagine the benefit of appealing to "wise unbelievers" for one's position on biblical eschatology.

I can imagine the basis of it, though. It indicates to me that those who despise the futurist position are more concerned with how they are viewed by the world than by Christ. If some "psychologist" sees eschatological yearnings based in some so-called psychological deficiency, then some would do anything rather than be poorly viewed by "this world." They'd even overthrow sound biblical teaching and "heap to themselves teachers having itching ears."

There is no doubt that Jesus was speaking to the future in Mt 24, Mk 13, Lu 21, (and Revelation, written by John in circa 90's AD.)

Thinking themselves wise, they became fools.


373 posted on 09/05/2006 5:37:15 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins
Thinking themselves wise, they became fools.

Amen

b'shem Yah'shua


374 posted on 09/05/2006 5:53:12 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 144:1 Praise be to YHvH, my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.)
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To: xzins; TomSmedley; Dr. Eckleburg; Buggman; Quix; topcat54; blue-duncan
If some "psychologist" sees eschatological yearnings based in some so-called psychological deficiency, then some would do anything rather than be poorly viewed by "this world."

I'm sure the scoffers said the same things about John The Baptist, John the Apostle, Daniel, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Zechariah, Isaiah....

That somehow their "obsession" with futuristic prophecy was simply a mechanism whereby they could "project their paralyzing internal turmoil against an imaginary global canvas, they justify their own sorry condition."

Did you ever notice how the people who the bible refers to as "wise men" were deeply into studying and interpreting eschatological events? Did you notice how they took the prophecies seriously and literally and then looked for fulfillment of those prophecies in their journey from the east and the so called "wise unbelievers" scoffed at them just as they scoffed at John the Baptist and all the other prophets and all those who actually believed what the prophets predicted?

If people scoff at you because you believe in the literal fulfillment of prophecy, then you are in good company.

376 posted on 09/05/2006 6:01:30 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy; Lord_Calvinus; TomSmedley
I can't imagine the benefit of appealing to "wise unbelievers" for one's position on biblical eschatology.

If only you folks would get as exercised about actually employing "wise unbelievers" in support of your abberational theology wrt Israel ala John Hagee and his "Christians United For Israel" and the Christian Zionists who go to Israel to suck up to unbelieving Jews so they can build Disney-style theme parks.

Once again you folks are confusing our repudiation of your carnal views on the future of Israel and the millennial kingdom with our affirmation of the biblical view of Christ's future second coming.

377 posted on 09/05/2006 6:08:06 AM PDT by topcat54
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy; Lord_Calvinus; TomSmedley
There is no doubt that Jesus was speaking to the future in Mt 24, Mk 13, Lu 21, (and Revelation, written by John in circa 90's AD.)

Yes, Jesus was speaking of the future when He spoke in the Olivet Discourse. And AD70 was yet in the future from that time. Don't you agree, or do you have some dispensational way of keeping time that we need to be aware of?

Some of you folks quote the AD90 date like it's in Scofield's Notes or some other part of your "Scripture".

380 posted on 09/05/2006 6:19:10 AM PDT by topcat54
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