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What do you do with a future National Israel in the Bible?
Tribulation Forces ^ | Thomas Ice

Posted on 09/01/2006 5:32:18 AM PDT by xzins

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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

God also said he had delivered the Israelites out of Egypt "on eagle's wings" yet my reading shows they walked it all the way.
= = = =

Perhaps I'm getting forgetful. But I have it in my noggin that the 'eagle's wings' phrase is about a future END TIMES event. IIRC the flight to Petra.

Some have speculated that it will involve American Aircraft. I'm skeptical of that. I think God is much more likely to do it supernaturally.

I have no trouble, IN THIS CASE seeing 'eagle's wings' as being a metaphor. I think in the blood case, a metaphor is highly unlikely. Seems to me there was mention somewhere of the stench etc.


521 posted on 09/05/2006 3:28:18 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: topcat54; 1000 silverlings; Gamecock; TomSmedley; Lord_Calvinus
Jesus uses the same language as that used by the prophets to describe the temporal judgment against ancient nations, in this case against ancient Babylon. You have to invent and then jump through literalist hoops to make this language speak of actual cosmic phenomenon.

I don't have a twelve step program to describe my epistemology. I don't think the subject is that complicated. Mine is quite simple. There are two ways of looking at things; man's way and God's way, more specifically Christ's way. Unbelievers suppress the truth and invent their own way of looking at the world. Believers in Jesus Christ are to have the mind of Christ and so we are to bring His Word to bear on every subject. It ain't high-falutin or rocket science.

Amen!

If politics were not involved here, I wonder how many on this thread would still be in disagreement with you and Scripture?

522 posted on 09/05/2006 3:32:33 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

If politics were not involved here, I wonder how many on this thread would still be in disagreement with you and Scripture?
= = = = = = =

My understanding and perspectives on Biblical END TIMES PROPHECIES FOR OUR ERA

have 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000% to do with politics.


523 posted on 09/05/2006 3:34:43 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix

"Eagles wings" can just mean safely and swiftly.


524 posted on 09/05/2006 3:34:50 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (why is it so difficult to understand?)
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To: xzins; Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy; Lord_Calvinus; TomSmedley
For all I know, TC & ...

Since your reading skills have proven to be your undoing in other posts, I would leave this one alone if I were you.

525 posted on 09/05/2006 3:34:52 PM PDT by topcat54
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To: 1000 silverlings

Conceivable . . . but I at least expect something other than across-the-dusty-terrain sorts of travel options.


526 posted on 09/05/2006 3:35:44 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: topcat54

I'm about to the place where I think comments about "reading skills" are rather cheeky and out of place.


527 posted on 09/05/2006 3:36:44 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; 1000 silverlings; P-Marlowe; Alamo-Girl

See, there you go telling me what I don't know about a guy who I don't know.

Which is why I said earlier that I don't know them and they'll have to speak for themselves.


528 posted on 09/05/2006 3:39:02 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Quix

***Perhaps I'm getting forgetful. But I have it in my noggin that the 'eagle's wings' phrase is about a future END TIMES event. IIRC the flight to Petra. ***

Exd 19:4 Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and [how] I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself.


529 posted on 09/05/2006 3:39:42 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ((Democrats have never found a fight they couldn't run from...Ann Coulter))
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To: 1000 silverlings

And you have a reading comprehension problem.

Look again at the post and see if it is not about the PCUSA.

You can answer honestly, or we can post a link. Which do you prefer?


530 posted on 09/05/2006 3:41:11 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins

I've spoken for myself. In the future just leave me out of your supposings.


531 posted on 09/05/2006 3:41:16 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (why is it so difficult to understand?)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar; P-Marlowe

The passages are different, RDB. "Eagles Wings" is clearly a metaphor.

The waters turning to blood was obviously testimony of a miracle; a miracle necessary to influence the mind of the Egyptians, Israelites, and especially of Pharaoh.

The resurrection is also a miracle. Do you consider that simply a metaphor?


532 posted on 09/05/2006 3:44:33 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: 1000 silverlings; P-Marlowe; Quix; Alamo-Girl

And when I'm asked about you, then I'll speak for myself. And my words were that I DO NOT know you. Your dishonest portrayal of that speaks volumes.


533 posted on 09/05/2006 3:46:22 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Thanks.

Happy to be corrected.


534 posted on 09/05/2006 3:47:26 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: xzins

Good points.


535 posted on 09/05/2006 3:48:20 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: topcat54

Don't have to worry about this one, TC. It's in the bag. The posts are short, clear, and right at hand.


536 posted on 09/05/2006 3:50:56 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins

Now I'm dishonest. I have an idea! Let's just ignore each other


537 posted on 09/05/2006 3:53:27 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (why is it so difficult to understand?)
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To: xzins
The resurrection is also a miracle. Do you consider that simply a metaphor

I consider it a metaphor, but I don't think it is simple

538 posted on 09/05/2006 3:53:33 PM PDT by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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To: 1000 silverlings

"Ignore" is something that fish are expert at.


539 posted on 09/05/2006 3:54:36 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Quix

**Thanks.

Happy to be corrected.**

We all make errors Including me. xzins has pointed out some of mine to me.

Yes, I will agree the Eagles Wings were metaphor and the bloody Nile started the ball rolling on the plagues of Egypt.


540 posted on 09/05/2006 3:55:57 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ((Democrats have never found a fight they couldn't run from...Ann Coulter))
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