What do you do with a future National Israel in the Bible?

Tribulation Forces ^ | Thomas Ice

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Some of us are actually reading this thread and following the discussion and your response seems to show you have no anwer to TC's question.

[1000 silverlings]

Your take is what your take is, stop associating me with those kinds of remarks, thank you

[P-Marlowe]

Well, if you say it was actual platlet loaded red blood cells then one could argue that when Christ declared the bread and wine to be his body and blood that they became the real thing.

Indeed, one could argue that.

Are you willing to say that the river turned to real blood? Or did it just turn red and smelly?

[Seven_0]

Besides . . . at some point, all folks with consciousness and sanity will be Dipsies! LOL. Events do have a way of overtaking all manner of THEORIES! LOL.

In a little over 1000 years we will all be preterist.

[xzins]

I did not. I said it was the PCUSA who voted to do so.

Unless your name is PCUSA (which would make your mother one odd lady in choice of names), then you're in the clear and have nothing to worry about.

Unless, of course, you belong to said body of believers (some of them anyway.)

[Quix]

I think related contexts might have something to say about the continuum of plausibilities, possibilities, probabilities.

[xzins]

Stop associating you with what?

[Quix]

Actually, I'm rather inclined to agree with you. It's God's nature, tendency.

I wasn't there and would be happy to take whatever Explanation God offers in the future but I'd place my money on your explanation first.

[P-Marlowe]

Some of us are actually reading this thread and following the discussion and your response seems to show you have no anwer to TC's question.

He hasn't answered mine yet, and I asked first.

What say you Doc? a, b, c, d, or e?

[Quix]

We shall see.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

1000silverlings is one of the most pro-Israel posters on this site, x. He knows the Old Testament back to front.

[1000 silverlings]

Thanks E

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***Are you willing to say that the river turned to real blood? Or did it just turn red and smelly?***

You stand on the shore. The river is crimson. It stinks. The fish die. What do you do? go down, stick your finger in it? Taste it? Or just look at it because it looks like blood you call it blood.

Consider how the spies in Cannan were as grasshoppers before the giants. How tall were the giants? seven feet? one hundred feet? five hundred feet?

And who could forget that Saul has slain his thousands and David his ten thousands. How many did david really kill in that battle? One.

Never forget man's ability to exagurate.

[1000 silverlings]

They're the pro-palestinian, pro-Hamas group. I'm pretty sure of it.Look, you come right out and say these kinds of things and then want to pretend that you don't know what I'm referring to. Just knock it off, please

[Quix]

Never forget man's ability to exagurate.
= = = =

Soooooooooo, now I'm supposed to assume, based on this . . . assumption . . .

that God--who is not a man that He should lie . . .

composed HIS WORD full of exaggerations? And, worse, He declined to tell us which phrases were exaggerations and which were 100% literally accurate . . . just 'cause He felt ornery those days?

That's a lot more than I'm prepared to buy into.

[P-Marlowe]

Never forget man's ability to exagurate.

I am amazed both at your ignorance of scripture and your ignorance of spelling rules.

GOD SAID he was going to turn the river into blood. If it was not blood, then God was a liar. Moses didn't have to "exagurate" what happened. God told Moses that he was going to turn the river into blood and he did it. End of story. Nobody had to taste the river to see that it was blood. We had God's word on it.

And the LORD spoke unto Moses, Say unto Aaron, Take thy rod, and stretch out thine hand upon the waters of Egypt, upon their streams, upon their rivers, and upon their ponds, and upon all their pools of water, that they may become blood; and that there may be blood throughout all the land of Egypt, both in vessels of wood, and in vessels of stone.

I can't believe some of the stuff I read on this forum.

Is there anybody else out there who doesn't think it was blood?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Well then you have a problem because Luke 21 exactly parallels that same Olivet Discourse given in Matthew 24 and Mark 13. The only difference is that Luke has adapted the language to suit his gentile readers (Theophilus), whereas Matthew and Mark assume a certain Hebrew knowledge of the prophetic subjects. E.g., Matthew uses the term "abominations of desolation" harkening back to events in Jewish history, whereas Luke speaks of armies as being something meaningful to a gentile audience...

Jesus uses the same language as that used by the prophets to describe the temporal judgment against ancient nations, in this case against ancient Babylon. You have to invent and then jump through literalist hoops to make this language speak of actual cosmic phenomenon.

Great post, TC. I learn from every one of them.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

**I am amazed both at your ignorance of scripture and your ignorance of spelling rules.***

I figured you would catch the spelling error. I didn't have my dictionary handy at that moment.

God also said he had delivered the Israelites out of Egypt "on eagle's wings" yet my reading shows they walked it all the way.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

MODERN REFORMATION: "Has God Failed?"

I've got to subscribe to that. Maybe you can post something from it when it's published.

[Quix]

I vote with you, Bro.

Thankfully, God's Word is not a matter of voting.

At least, not in our era! LOL.