[NYer]

But were I a betting man I'd guess the holdouts are Mahony, Gumbleton and another loser to be named later.

I can name several candidates right off the top of my head.

While all of these rules and regulations are good, they cannot alter the mindset of a bishop. The bishops will continue to seek out candidates who share their 'vision' of the future, even at the risk of fewer seminarians. If anything, they will then use this as an excuse for installing LEMs to run parishes because of a 'priest shortage'. They will continue to turn away the more 'orthodox' candidates. It's truly sad and unfortunate. Things will only turnaround when these bishops retire.

[ArrogantBustard]

S: This touches on what we were discussing earlier. They may well obey the rules, but whether they obey the rules because they believe the rules to be good and true, or because Benedetto will beat them over the head if they don't may well determine the true outcome of all this.

[Maeve]

While all of these rules and regulations are good, they cannot alter the mindset of a bishop. The bishops will continue to seek out candidates who share their 'vision' of the future, even at the risk of fewer seminarians.

That is why some of us believe in the auto da fe as a means of dealing with said bishops .... ;-)

[Diva]

They will continue to turn away the more 'orthodox' candidates. It's truly sad and unfortunate. Things will only turnaround when these bishops retire.

This is actually happening less in at least two diocese I am familiar with, Detroit and St. Paul/Minneapolis.