Posted on 08/29/2006 1:08:37 PM PDT by NYer
All right, I've read'em, and I don't see anything about "grace ALONE" in the lyrics. And Catholic teaching IS that we are saved by grace, with works themselves being gifts of grace.
In neither of your posts to me have you made any attempt to respond to the substance of my comment.
Enough said.
A little self-deprecating humor there?
I did some looking around, and found the midi file.
Pure lounge music. Poor Father Jolly!
Jesus is my boyfriend music.......haha that's what I call it and people always say "WHAT are you talking about????"
They sound like love/romantic songs. Words and all.
Ditto. Our traditional service still uses the red TLH.
We added a contemporary service about 5 years ago and I have yet to attend and don't ever plan to in the future.
The contemporary service has also created a lot of conflict in the church. I believe it has hurt more than helped.
Well, there's no real substance. And that's true of much of the contemporary music today. It's 'feel good' fluff with little-to-no doctrinal substance, and no memorable essence.
Our Church has been involved in a program focused on growth and development. As part of that program we've approved a new mission statement. The group that spearheads this effort actually came up with a song to assist in presenting the statement to the congregation, and help making it a significant issue. That's an effort I applaud. It has substance because it reinforces the mission statement, which is doctrinally relevant. Secondly, it reflects the focused efforts of members of the Congregation.
But that is one thing. Contemporary music in general is another; and something I find mindless (for the most part).
We returned to the LCMS from the ELCA last year over doctrinal issues with the ELCA. That Synod was far more liberal, and much more into contemporary 'pap' than our LCMS congregation. Don't miss it at all (except for some of our friends that are still there).
BTW, good looking Lab! Ours is a 2 yo (almost) German Shorthair (my wife says we now have two of them in the house :) ).
The truth is that it has not produced sustained membership. The traditional, long time members had to have their service made earlier because after all, these new folks have to have everything designed around their lifestyle. GRRRRRRRRRRR
Hardly anyone from the contemporary crowd is involved in the church in other ways. Most would likely be happy with drive-by church.
We should never change church to suit the desires of man. When the altar becomes a place of entertainment, the church has lost its way.
Unfortunately, it seems to be the only piece anyone knows for the bagpipe, anymore. For my funeral, "The Flowers of the Forest", please.
Check this link, and scroll down the page to click the link to a bagpipe solo:
http://www.contemplator.com/scotland/forest.html
I attend an excellent protestant church with a passion for evangelism, worship, and discipleship.
Unfortunately, our hymns remind me of people playing with disposable plastic trinkets while ignoring the real and weighty treasure accumulated over the last few millenia.
That's a great name for it. The modern "worship" music is guilty of this. If you're a South Park fan, you probably know the episode where Cartman decides to cash in on the modern evangelical "worship" music. He just takes soft rock love songs and plugs in the word "Jesus" from time to time.
One of our Lab's good friends at the GA coast (where my parents live) is a GSP. She is a field type, so she can actually keep up with a GSP.
Here is her most recent portrait (sans pancake):
Somebody told me about an old SNL sketch or something like it that had a girl sitting at a piano at the foot of the cross looking up at Jesus hanging there and singing "Jesus is my boyfriend." I don't know if that's true or apocryphal
You echo a sentiment I've said often to people: "Church is meant to change peoples lives, not change itself just to suit people's lives".
And I agree with your assessment that many who join because of the 'Kumbaya' feeling that such services provide don't actively participate in the daily functions of the Church. They spend that one hour on Sunday then go on with their lives as though that one hour they spent has no further meaning nor value to their existence. Sad!
He's my good buddy, and the best darned dog we've ever had.
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