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To: zook

"People should laugh about it. It showed the world how empty and worthless the radical Islamic cause is.

The men have not a thing to be forgiven for."

So true.


38 posted on 08/27/2006 7:22:30 PM PDT by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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To: swmobuffalo

If we assume that these journalists were Christians, then I for one an apalled at the apparent indiference by most of the readers to their conversion to islam. For 2000 years many better than we have died rather renounce their faith. I pray I would be as brave as the original Church martyrs:

From http://www.domestic-church.com/CONTENT.DCC/19971201/SAINTS/STSTEVN.HTM
Saint Stephen was unquestionably Jewish, and was most likely a Diaspora jew who spoke Greek. His spoken name was Stephanos, which in Greek means "crown". The circumstances of his conversion aren't known, but he appears in the Acts when amongst the growing numbers of gathered disciples there were murmurs against the treatment of widows who spoke Greek by the Hebrews.

The Apostles gathered the Faithful together and told them they could not dispense with preaching and prayer to 'care for tables', and they would have to choose seven holy men to continue to preach and pray. This was unanimously accepted by the community and Stephen, "full of Faith and the Holy Ghost" along with Philip, Prochorus, Nicanor, Timon, Parmenas, and Nicholas the proselyte of Antioch were chosen. Then the Apostles laid hands on the men in confirmation, and thus the first deacons were ordained.

Stephen spoke with such elegance and wisdom that many converted, and this raised the ire of the elders of the synagogue. They wished to up-end the saint, but were unable to argue him into submission, so they obtained false witnesses to say Stephen had blasphemed Moses and God. Specifically that he had foretold the destruction of the temple, and spoke that the Mosaic traditions were hollow and no longer acceptable to God, since Jesus the Christ had thrown them away.

He was allowed to speak, and what follows in Acts 7:2-53 is an inspired dissertation on the economy of salvation beginning with Abraham and ending with Jesus. His witness ends with a stinging rebuke of the Sanhedrin as "...stiff-necked and uncircumcised in hearts and ears........who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it."

The jews were enraged and Stephen, full of the Holy Ghost, spoke of a vision of heaven with the Saviour at the right hand of God. The assembly cried out with one voice and resolved to put him to death without delay. They rushed en masse at the saint. They pushed him about town, finally dragging him outside the city and relieving their rage against him by stoning him. Stephen implored the Lord to receive his spirit, and that his killers not be condemned for their act. Thus he went to his reward as the first martyr for Christ.

And a link to others, as well:
http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/pst00808.htm

If it was good enough for them it should be good enough for us, too.


39 posted on 08/27/2006 7:44:48 PM PDT by bradthebuilder (Iran....we still owe you for the emabassy and the barracks)
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