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Plan B... What Next?
Episcoblog ^ | 8/25/20 | Bp. Leo Michael

Posted on 08/26/2006 6:12:08 PM PDT by sionnsar

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To: MHGinTN

re: The protaglandin causes a build up in the uterine lining via the hormonal feedbakc mechanism, artificially stimulating the pituitary system.

Please send me something I can understand about how it causes a build up in the uterine lining via hormonal feedback mech.


81 posted on 08/27/2006 12:37:03 PM PDT by AliVeritas ( You can judge a society by its treatment of elderly, children and most helpless.)
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To: marajade
I'm still awaiting for an answer on the use of condoms.

I'm still waiting for the question. You never asked me anything about condoms and the post I responded to had nothing to do with condoms. Of course, that said, I'm against all forms of contraception, in agreement with the Church.
82 posted on 08/27/2006 1:16:41 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: marajade
What is their teaching on the use of condoms?

The Church's teaching on condoms is that they are wrong to use, just as any contraceptives are. And the reason that the Church does not justify them to stop HIV (which they don't always anyway), is that is never right to bring about one good at the expense of comitting a different evil. It's the same logic that goes into the Church's teachings against abortion, cloning, and embryonic stem cell research. In all three of these cases, such as the good of curing a disease comes at the expense of destroying or exploiting another being, in these cases the unborn.
83 posted on 08/27/2006 1:19:28 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: winston2
Well there are a lot of folks that think that morals can be legislated and it just doesn't work.

An utterly specious argument. Every law in existence there "legislates morals". The question is not, "Are we going to legislate morals?", but "Whose morals are we going to legislate?".

Ask yourself whose morals we're legislating by making Plan B OTC. Are they the morals you'd like for your own sons and daughters?

84 posted on 08/27/2006 2:00:12 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: marajade
I'm saying I believe and support in the law of the land you know like Romans 13:1. But its not a personal choice I would make for myself. I also believe that abortion of a viable fetus is murder. As in murder in a sinful sense.

That's not logical Marajade. Romans 13:1 says "LET every soul be subject to higher powers: for there is no power but from God: and those that are, are ordained of God."

Since when is Roe vs Wade a mandated law that one HAS to obey? Your words were this "I'm in support of Roe v. Wade. I believe its a personal choice that women ought to have for themselves."

If you want to make that verse that you used applicable to Roe Vs Wade, you're in big trouble. That verse is suppose to be about civil obedience and obeying the law, not about going out and getting abortions. Speaking of laws, what about the law directly from God? Thou shall not kill?

85 posted on 08/27/2006 2:18:08 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: Campion
Ask yourself whose morals we're legislating by making Plan B OTC.

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Look, it's a contraceptive product and it seems to beat the old coat hanger method.

(snip)3. How does Plan B work?

Plan B works like other birth control pills to prevent pregnancy. Plan B acts primarily by stopping the release of an egg from the ovary (ovulation). It may prevent the union of sperm and egg (fertilization). If fertilization does occur, Plan B may prevent a fertilized egg from attaching to the womb (implantation). If a fertilized egg is implanted prior to taking Plan B, Plan B will not work.

FDA's Decision Regarding Plan B: Questions and Answers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Are they the morals you'd like for your own sons and daughters?

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I don't depend upon governments to teach my family it's morals. We don't quite yet have a complete nanny state. Frankly I think the fed.s have their hands full trying to defend us from enemies - foreign and domestic.

86 posted on 08/27/2006 2:24:20 PM PDT by winston2 (In matters of necessity let there be unity, in matters of doubt liberty, and in all things charity:-)
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To: winston2
Look, it's a contraceptive product and it seems to beat the old coat hanger method.

Nothing beats the "keep your zipper zipped" method, though, does it. Nobody ever got an STD by doing that, either.

I don't depend upon governments to teach my family it's morals.

Good, you shouldn't. Neither do I. But it would be nice if the government wouldn't step in to undermine the morals I try to teach.

Speaking of a nanny state, though, I'm surprised that you don't recognize this as part and parcel of a nanny state. Undermine parental authority over young girls, and teach them to screw around outside of marriage ... and then, when they have illegitimate kids, who's going to step in to pay the bills? Why the nanny government, of course! Daddy's not around, so you need a paternalistic welfare state to pay for the chillun. It's worked so well in the black community, after all.

Teaching people to be sexually irresponsible at a young age is the nanny state agenda. Teaching kids to wait until marriage, and supporting parents who want to teach that, is the conservative agenda.

87 posted on 08/27/2006 2:30:11 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Campion
Speaking of a nanny state, though, I'm surprised that you don't recognize this as part and parcel of a nanny state. Undermine parental authority over young girls, and teach them to screw around outside of marriage ... and then, when they have illegitimate kids, who's going to step in to pay the bills? Why the nanny government, of course! Daddy's not around, so you need a paternalistic welfare state to pay for the chillun. It's worked so well in the black community, after all.

Teaching people to be sexually irresponsible at a young age is the nanny state agenda. Teaching kids to wait until marriage, and supporting parents who want to teach that, is the conservative agenda.

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Do you remember when we had "blue laws"? It didn't work - did it? It wasn't fair to Saturday Sabbath observers - was it?

I don't think any "nanny state agenda is to teach people to be sexually irresponsible at a young age". Our culture is what is falling into loose sexual moral conduct.

I heard a Hutterite minister say that his group was "in the world but not of the world". My point is that the nation can not be turned into a sin free zone. Actually - when those ads show for products that one finds inappropriate - it might be a good starting point for family conversation about how wrong the product is.

You seem like a great person and I though you might like seeing these verses:

3 - Behold, children are a heritage from the LORD,
The fruit of the womb is a reward.
4 - Like arrows in the hand of a warrior,
So are the children of one’s youth.
5 - Happy is the man who has his quiver full of them;
They shall not be ashamed,
But shall speak with their enemies in the gate.
Psalm 127 (New King James Version)

11 - As for Ephraim, their glory shall fly away like a bird— No birth, no pregnancy, and no conception!
12 - Though they bring up their children, Yet I will bereave them to the last man. Yes, woe to them when I depart from them!
13 - Just as I saw Ephraim like Tyre, planted in a pleasant place, So Ephraim will bring out his children to the murderer.”
14 - Give them, O LORD— What will You give? Give them a miscarrying womb And dry breasts!
15 - “ All their wickedness is in Gilgal, For there I hated them. Because of the evil of their deeds I will drive them from My house; I will love them no more. All their princes are rebellious.
16 - Ephraim is stricken, Their root is dried up; They shall bear no fruit. Yes, were they to bear children, I would kill the darlings of their womb.”
17 - My God will cast them away, Because they did not obey Him; And they shall be wanderers among the nations.
Hosea 9 (New King James Version)

BibleGateway.com

88 posted on 08/27/2006 3:58:38 PM PDT by winston2 (In matters of necessity let there be unity, in matters of doubt liberty, and in all things charity:-)
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To: AliVeritas

"Oh, and men molesting underage girls can get off by buying them Plan B."

Oh, and men molesting underage males can get off by papal and priestly church teachings.


89 posted on 08/27/2006 4:48:25 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: AliVeritas; FJ290

" ... all for getting HIV when it comes to Plan B ..."

Actually, I practice safe sex. Its the Catholic Church who has yet to say that its better for men who has HIV use condoms.


90 posted on 08/27/2006 4:50:14 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Conservative til I die

" ... is that is never right to bring about one good at the expense of comitting a different evil."

But that doesn't carry forward to instances of rape and incest though right.


91 posted on 08/27/2006 4:52:20 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
But that doesn't carry forward to instances of rape and incest though right.

What part about thou shall not kill don't you understand?

92 posted on 08/27/2006 4:54:33 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: FJ290

Um Dude, I posted where even your own Church and the drug manufacturer don't know how it really works in re: implantation.

You are adjudging someone without all the facts. God will remember that when you get to judgement day.


93 posted on 08/27/2006 4:57:15 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: FJ290

It is the law of the land. If you don't like it, work to change it. Good luck!


94 posted on 08/27/2006 5:03:01 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
Um Dude, I posted where even your own Church and the drug manufacturer don't know how it really works in re: implantation.

Um.. lady..I showed where that's not the case, but I'm not getting into bantering about that again with you.

You are adjudging someone without all the facts. God will remember that when you get to judgement day.

I will take my chances. I think God looks favorably upon those who try sincerely to protect the lives of the innocent.

95 posted on 08/27/2006 5:03:56 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: marajade
It is the law of the land. If you don't like it, work to change it. Good luck!

I am working to change it. What are you doing? What efforts do you make Marajade?

96 posted on 08/27/2006 5:05:03 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: FJ290

I quoted from an article that was dated this month and year. What? Can't be bothered to read it?

Judge not, lest ye be judged.


97 posted on 08/27/2006 5:11:16 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: FJ290

I vote the Republican ticket in every election, you?


98 posted on 08/27/2006 5:11:46 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: FJ290

"I think God looks favorably upon those who try sincerely to protect the lives of the innocent."

You are arguing the possibility of life where none may not exist. Even your own Church agrees with it scientifically.


99 posted on 08/27/2006 5:13:38 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
I vote the Republican ticket in every election, you?

Yes, but that's not enough. What else, Marajade?

100 posted on 08/27/2006 5:14:50 PM PDT by FJ290
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