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To: blue-duncan; alpha-8-25-02
I'm not sure of your question, but I think you're asking how anyone can impede another's salvation if God has chosen His elect from before the foundation of the world. Is that it?

We're told to preach sound doctrine. I presume that instruction is for our benefit as well as those who hear it.

I think walking the path of Christ is a lot more difficult than I ever imagined. I never really understood my arrogance and just how far I fall short of the goal until I returned to Scripture and to many of the Reformed creeds.

But every time I read them again, and every time I hear them again I am strengthened. Really knowing that one is a child of God, that God breathed our name and Christ on the cross at the same moment, and that NOTHING can keep His steadying hand from our arm is profoundly fortifying. During times of stress or doubt, that belief keeps a person's head afloat.

As God wills.

As I've come to believe, all Trinitarian Christians probably go to heaven, but it's the Reformed who worry least about the journey or its end. It's all good, one way or another, because it's all from God.

"Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.

And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life. " -- 1 John 2:23-25


17 posted on 08/26/2006 5:18:02 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; alpha-8-25-02

"I'm not sure of your question, but I think you're asking how anyone can impede another's salvation if God has chosen His elect from before the foundation of the world. Is that it?"

That is it.

I support a missionary to Poland who is a printer by trade. He has had trouble learning the language and works as a printer there. Yet he has been a tremendous witness by his trade and love for the Lord and the people he has been called to. He uses the "Four Spiritual Laws" and anything else he can get his hands on to witness and it is effective. People are being saved one at a time and involved in his Bible study. Yet if you were to listen to his testimony, he always asks for a decision to trust Christ for salvation and people respond to that invitation. For Bunker to say he is creating "children that are TWICE the children of hell than they themselves are", to me is the heighth of presumption.


19 posted on 08/26/2006 5:39:50 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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