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To: VidMihi
Please post the relevant passages from Vatican Two which changed Christian Doctrine on the nature of the Hierarchial Constitution of the Church.

You appear to equate obedience with stupidity..Using their intelleigence instead of behaving like little children..." Please enlighten us

What exactly is YOUR "adult solution" to a particular, as yet unidentified by you, "problem?"

I am sure you must have something more than rank insults and references to the "taliban." So far, you are but the pot calling the kettle black.

I have asked you a few questions to which you have yet to respond. I don't know in what way that is an example of "adult behavior." Please enlighten me.

33 posted on 08/21/2006 1:25:41 PM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: bornacatholic
The Second Vatican Council did not do anything that is claimed by "dissenters". The Council itself produced a Constitution on the Church and a Constitution on the Liturgy, both of which reiterated the traditional dogmas and doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church, including Papal Infallibility when defining faith and morals. Note too that this doctrine was not confined to "ex cathedra" pronouncements. The Council affirmed that when a general council of bishops in union with the Holy Father defines matters of faith and morals, those teachings are infallibly taught. The apostolic nature of the Church is explained and the role of the hierarchy is defined in traditional terms. More participation among the laity is certainly encouraged, but always in line with the fundamental faith and practices of the Church. The so-called reforms of Vatican II did not come from the Council. They were the products of subversive infiltration of the post council commissions. These were not a part of the Council itself and were misused by extremist dissenters to subvert the actual product of the Council. That is why they always beckon to the "spirit" of Vatican II. They know that the actual Second Vatican Council was very traditional in fundamentals. It's purpose was to make these fundamentals more available to the modern world.
39 posted on 08/21/2006 2:29:17 PM PDT by tmbrrr
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