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To: doc1019
1Timothy 3:2 that bishops and elders should be a "husband of one wife"

Biblical references are mired in cultural biases similar to sharia law of today. Using sharia to justify the subjugation of women is silly.

5 posted on 08/20/2006 5:18:00 AM PDT by x_plus_one (No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American Public)
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To: x_plus_one
I don't think you're correct here. You are injecting modern social/cultural dogma into religion. That's what started all this trouble in the first place.

If you'll read the New Testament carefully, you'll see that Christ shattered many cultural biases -- wrt social norms, religious customs, etc. Eating with tax collectors and prostitutes, "profaning" the Sabbath, violence in the Temple . . . it's a long list. But what Christ did NOT do was overturn the essential differences between men and women. On the contrary, he was very clear and explicit that "Male and female created He them." Each gender has specific roles that are inherent in the moment of creation.

Where moderns go wrong is grafting modern cultural biases (no more valuable from a religious point of view than ancient cultural biases) into the church and calling it "more enlightened" than whatever some other cultural biases may be. Once you open the door to allowing the world (because cultural biases are of the world) to trump Scripture and the tradition of the church, then ANYBODY can say that their particular pet cultural bias ought to be incorporated into the church.

That's exactly what happened in the Episcopal Church USA. First they revised the old Prayer Book to be more up to date and speak in a "more modern voice" (incidentally tweaking the theology in some pretty obvious ways to line up with the "I'm OK - you're OK" culture.) Then they ordained women, because after all modern social justice and culture required that women be allowed to be "equal". The ordination of an active homosexual who left his wife and children to live with a man is simply a continuation of the trend to graft the current socially fashionable idea that Gay is Great onto the church. It's just the next station on the express train to . . . . wherever.

6 posted on 08/20/2006 5:36:41 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: x_plus_one
Biblical references are mired in cultural biases similar to sharia law of today.

Nobody who believes that should be a Christian at all, if they're going have any integrity about it.

8 posted on 08/20/2006 8:08:02 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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