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To: RobbyS
Like it or not, Israel is a democratic state.

Ah, no it's not. It's a theocracy. If you are non-Jewish, you do not have the same rights in Israel. It is also a nation in arms, because it is surrounded by enemies who wish to destroy it.

Yeah, any minute now it's going to be wiped into the sea. Nevermide the fact that Israel has kicked its neighbors' asses in EVERY fight it has EVER had with them. And I mean kicked them but good. In 1967, they destroyed the armies of Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and Jordan IN SIX DAYS!!!!

They are not going to be driven into the sea by anyone. They are armed to the teeth with US missiles and tanks and F16s and Apache helicopters. They can go on being a bully to anyone in the region who pisses them off. And everyone in the region knows it and is afraid of them. Everyone except Syria and Iran because they know that Israel won't invade their countries because they're not bordering them. Why do you think the Jordanians and the Egyptians were willing to sign peace agreements with Israel? It wasn't because they suddenly fell in love with them. It was a matter of self preservation. If you are truly a friend to Israel, you would not be encourging their paranoia that everyone is going to drive them into the sea unless the Israelis kill them first. That's no way to live.

Would the author like to live in Syria or even in Egypt?

No, and I wouldn't want to live in Canada either. What the hell is your point.

46 posted on 08/15/2006 9:20:31 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: GipperGal

Theocracy is not the right term, else Israel would be ruled by rabbis. It's a nation-state with a democratric form of government. They remind me of the ancient Athenians with every citizen a soldier/sailor.


50 posted on 08/15/2006 10:10:34 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: GipperGal
Why do you think the Jordanians and the Egyptians were willing to sign peace agreements with Israel? It wasn't because they suddenly fell in love with them. It was a matter of self preservation.

But that is the problem then also. By your logic, the moment these nations think they have the advantage, they plan for war.

The entire history of the PLO was that it was an underground army financed by Egypt. Israel is regularly destroying tunnels through which weapons are smuggled into Gaza. Syria, now that it smells a potential military advantage is talking tough again.

Regardless of the hopelessness and troubles of Lebanon, there will be more war. Much more.

79 posted on 08/16/2006 9:23:54 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: GipperGal
GipperGal
"Like it or not, Israel is a democratic state."
Ah, no it's not. It's a theocracy. If you are non-Jewish, you do not have the same rights in Israel. Ah, no it's not. It's a theocracy. If you are non-Jewish, you do not have the same rights in Israel. You are confusing theocracy (rule according to religious law) with a Nation State. Most nations treat minorities differently, espcially hostile minorities.

"It is also a nation in arms, because it is surrounded by enemies who wish to destroy it."
Yeah, any minute now it's going to be wiped into the sea. Nevermide the fact that Israel has kicked its neighbors' asses in EVERY fight it has EVER had with them. And I mean kicked them but good. In 1967, they destroyed the armies of Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and Jordan IN SIX DAYS!!!!
Did Israel's past victories mean that Hizbullah and Hamas arefigments of my imagination?
The desire still exists.And Israel's enemies are now using asymmetric warfare.
They are not going to be driven into the sea by anyone. They are armed to the teeth with US missiles and tanks and F16s and Apache helicopters. They can go on being a bully to anyone in the region who pisses them off. And everyone in the region knows it and is afraid of them.
You do know that the US gives military aid to Egypt and Jordan and sells weapons to almost every other Arab nation.

And everyone in the region knows it and is afraid of them. Everyone except Syria and Iran because they know that Israel won't invade their countries because they're not bordering them.
Yep, you are ignorant.
Syria and Israel share a border. Get a map.

Why do you think the Jordanians and the Egyptians were willing to sign peace agreements with Israel? It wasn't because they suddenly fell in love with them. It was a matter of self preservation.
They lost 3 wars against Israel and realized that if they attacked Israel again and lost, their regimes would be overthrown?

Why do you think the Jordanians and the Egyptians were willing to sign peace agreements with Israel? It wasn't because they suddenly fell in love with them. It was a matter of self preservation
Neither is deluding oneself by ignoring the open statements of ones enemies.

130 posted on 08/17/2006 11:46:36 AM PDT by rmlew (I'm a Goldwater Republican... Don Goldwater 2006!)
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