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To: DouglasKC
"The reason for quoting the verse was to show that there is a scriptural precedent, from the mouth of Christ, to show that he can and did consider a day and a night more than just "part" of day and night."

Context is everything, though. Like I posted to Diego, I work varying shifts, so when my wife asks, "How was your day?" she isn't talking about my last 24 hours. She's also not even limiting it to the daylight hours. However, she also asks me, "How many days will you be gone this month?" and the direction is toward a 24 hour day answer. I'm sure that in Jesus's day there were phrases that had multiple meanings.

Besides, you skipped the reality that night and day in Alaska is more then 12 hours. So was Jesus lieing, or are you making a contextual assumption?

"This included Israel AND gentiles:"

Again, this is OT times. Jesus nor the Apostles EVER command it to the Gentiles of the new covenant.

"Sure you do. It's called "moral relativism" and it's often the justfication for breaking all of God's commandments."

So you think that you could go to the deep jungles of Brazil and find a tribesman that would know that Sabbath breaking is wrong, just like murder, stealing, etc.? The point is that the moral laws are written on all of our hearts, and the ceremonial ones (like circumcision and Sabbath keeping) aren't. If you don't see that, then there probably nothing further I can say.

Sincerely
262 posted on 08/20/2006 6:17:48 AM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: ScubieNuc
"Sure you do. It's called "moral relativism" and it's often the justfication for breaking all of God's commandments."
So you think that you could go to the deep jungles of Brazil and find a tribesman that would know that Sabbath breaking is wrong, just like murder, stealing, etc.? The point is that the moral laws are written on all of our hearts, and the ceremonial ones (like circumcision and Sabbath keeping) aren't. If you don't see that, then there probably nothing further I can say.

God only writes his laws (oops, laws are still there!) into the hearts of those under the new covenant:

Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

This occurs only with the indwelling of the holy spirit through believing in Christ. A jungle tribesman in Brazil does not have God's law written in his heart. He may refrain from killing his neighbor because it causes tension and trouble in the tribe, but he has no qualms about killing someone outside of his tribe.

289 posted on 08/20/2006 8:16:26 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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