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To: HarleyD
And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.

18 "Thou art Peter"... As St. Peter, by divine revelation, here made a solemn profession of his faith of the divinity of Christ; so in recompense of this faith and profession, our Lord here declares to him the dignity to which he is pleased to raise him: viz., that he to whom he had already given the name of Peter, signifying a rock, St. John 1. 42, should be a rock indeed, of invincible strength, for the support of the building of the church; in which building he should be, next to Christ himself, the chief foundation stone, in quality of chief pastor, ruler, and governor; and should have accordingly all fulness of ecclesiastical power, signified by the keys of the kingdom of heaven.

18 "Upon this rock"... The words of Christ to Peter, spoken in the vulgar language of the Jews which our Lord made use of, were the same as if he had said in English, Thou art a Rock, and upon this rock I will build my church. So that, by the plain course of the words, Peter is here declared to be the rock, upon which the church was to be built: Christ himself being both the principal foundation and founder of the same. Where also note, that Christ, by building his house, that is, his church, upon a rock, has thereby secured it against all storms and floods, like the wise builder, St. Matt. 7. 24, 25.

18 "The gates of hell"... That is, the powers of darkness, and whatever Satan can do, either by himself, or his agents. For as the church is here likened to a house, or fortress, built on a rock; so the adverse powers are likened to a contrary house or fortress, the gates of which, that is, the whole strength, and all the efforts it can make, will never be able to prevail over the city or church of Christ. By this promise we are fully assured, that neither idolatry, heresy, nor any pernicious error whatsoever shall at any time prevail over the church of Christ.

19 "Loose upon earth"... The loosing the bands of temporal punishments due to sins, is called an indulgence; the power of which is here granted.

*Brother, Harley. We Catholics understand the words of Our Lord and Saviour to mean the Christian Hierarchy has Divinely-Constitued Authority to establish order,rules,discipline, punishments for delicts, heresies, apostasy etc etc etc to serve His Church on Earth

130 posted on 08/14/2006 5:15:13 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: bornacatholic
I appreciate the fact that our Roman Catholic friends believe God has given them the "keys". ("Here's the Church. Take it for a spin.") The difference that I'm trying to make sense of is that in one case Catholic theology states that God has sealed the "souls" of these priests for His service while in another Church bureaucracy seems to be saying they can't serve. This would put the Church squarely at odds with the will of God.

I believe this is the point of the Rent-A-Priests. They see their authority coming from Roman Catholic theology-not Roman Catholic bureaucracy.

131 posted on 08/14/2006 5:28:33 AM PDT by HarleyD ("Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures" Luk 24:45)
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