"He who comes from above is above all; he who is of the earth is earthly and speaks of the earth. He who comes from heaven is above all. And what He has seen and heard, that He testifies; and no one receives His testimony. He who has received His testimony has certified that God is true. For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure. The Father loves the Son, and has given all things into His hand. He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.
For there are three that bear witness in heaven:
the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit;
and these three are one.
1 John 5:7I urge you in the sight of God who gives life to all things, and before Christ Jesus who witnessed the good confession before Pontius Pilate, that you keep this commandment without spot, blameless until our Lord Jesus Christs appearing, which He will manifest in His own time, He who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see, to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen.
1 Timothy 6:13-16
"These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are called, chosen, and faithful.Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written:
Revelation 17:14
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.Revelation 19:15-16
But the thing displeased Samuel when they said, Give us a king to judge us. So Samuel prayed to the LORD. And the LORD said to Samuel, Heed the voice of the people in all that they say to you; for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign over them."
"And when you saw that Nahash king of the Ammonites came against you, you said to me, No, but a king shall reign over us, when the LORD your God was your king."
Now Jesus stood before the governor. And the governor asked Him, saying, Are You the King of the Jews?
Jesus said to him, It is as you say.
1 Samuel 8:6-7; 1 Samuel 12:12; Matthew 12:27
Dear Eagle Eye, I can only claim this promise for you: That he who speaks a word against the Son of Man it can and will be forgiven him. I will not even ask you for your testimony concerning the Spirit, for I fear what thou wouldst say.
Jhn 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
Your arguement that because Jesus said that he and God were one means that they are the same doesn't hold water when one looks at the scripture.
If Jesus and God were one and the same and part of a trinity, they where do the disciples fit in? Jesus prayed that they would be one just as God and Jesus were one.
COULD IT BE....that Jesus and God were one in purpose? And that the disciples would be one in purpose?
Married couples are considered 'one' yet they are obviously not the same being.
You guys are pretty good at playing 20 Questions with me but are very short on answers to the questions I pose to you.
If Jesus was, as you seem to contend, walking with Adam, how to you explain that the 'gennesis' of Jesus is described in Matthew 1:18? Genesis...birth...beginning...Matthew 1:18.
When Jesus tells his followers that the works that he did they would do also AND GREATER...how do you explain that if Jesus is God that he promised his believers that they would perform works greater than God?