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To: Buggman
Sha'ul's point is that we are all equally saved by faith in the Messiah of Israel, and that makes us all one family, whether we are Jew, Gentile, man, woman, slave, freeman, black, white, American, Chinese, or any other ontological distinction one can think of.

Which is why the idea that the Jews get their own special dispensation is offensive.

(Would it kill you to lay off the Hebraisms? They're pretentious.)

84 posted on 08/10/2006 7:31:17 PM PDT by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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To: jude24
Which is why the idea that the Jews get their own special dispensation is offensive.

Take it up with all the authors of Scripture, then. Sha'ul was the one who said that "all Israel"--defined as those who were then enemies of the Gospel and who yet were still beloved of God for the sake of the patriarchs, both of which rule out that "Israel" here really means "the Church"--would be saved "when the fulness of the Gentiles is come in."

(Would it kill you to lay off the Hebraisms? They're pretentious.)

It wouldn't kill me, but since it apparently hasn't been driven home with everyone here that the Bible is a fundamentally Jewish document (even those parts written in Greek), I'm going to continue to use Hebraisms until it has.

93 posted on 08/10/2006 7:45:17 PM PDT by Buggman (http://brit-chadasha.blogspot.com)
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