Afterward shall the children of Israel return, {{WE ARE RIGHT HERE TODAY}} and seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.
Hosea 3:4-5 ===========
OP: At Pentecost. Through His Church.
We're back at the series of "children of Israel" questions I asked you and you did not answer. But earlier you said...
OP: In other words, this passage may very well refer to the restoration of Jerusalem after the Assyrian and Babylonian captivity
So is it Restoration or Pentecost -- you have said both.
So is children of Israel referring to the Church (see unanswered questions post #49) or to physical descendants of Abraham ???? You seem to say both again. This comment indicates the "children of Israel" is the folks coming back from Babylon and Assyria.
OP: In other words, this passage may very well refer to the restoration of Jerusalem after the Assyrian and Babylonian captivity
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OP: If you are unwilling to interpret Old Testament "Israel Prophecies" according to the New Testament revelation that the "Israel of God" is the Christian Church, then you don't care about the New Testament.
Given that the New Testament defines the "Israel of God" as being THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH, no other interpretation is permissible whatsoever.
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So let me sum it up: I am a racist, holding theology damned by God, and I do not care about the New Testament? Why not just show how your view actually explains the prophecy rather than lobbing invectives at me an my views?
OP: Go on that basis, and I'll debate you. Otherwise... any "interpretation" that you offer, frankly doesn't count
Interesting debating rules. I was asking for exegesis of Hosea's inspired words. And, frankly, I am waiting for a single interpretation from you. And I am waiting for you to show how this interpretation arises from the text and not how you read your premise into the text at the expense of Hosea's words.
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Afterward shall the children of Israel return, {{WE ARE RIGHT HERE TODAY}} and seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.
Hosea 3:4-5 ===========
I'm not seeing any problem with my interpretation there.
After the Babylonian and Assyrian Captivity, the bulk of the Old Testament Church (which was primarily Jewish, at the time -- but even in the Old Testament, there were non-Jewish members of The Church Universal) was returned to the Land of Israel, in preparation for the coming of the Messiah (the Second Adam, the Second Joseph, the Second David) Jesus Christ.
Thereafter, as a result of the Incarnation, Crucifixion, and Resurrection, "God's Israel" (comprising the believing Jews and Gentiles of The Church) do "seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days" as Hosea prophecied.
So let me sum it up: I am a racist, holding theology damned by God, and I do not care about the New Testament?
I didn't say that. I haven't accused anyone of being a "Racist" or a "Nazi" or anything like that. IMHO, I think that a lot of people hold to various theologies without really thinking through the implications thereof.
What I am saying is: IF we took the statements made by Dispensationalists, and substituted ANY OTHER Ethnic Group within the context of their statements (the White Race, the Black Race, any Ethnic Group), every fair-minded and Biblically-minded Christian would IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZE such a Racially-Divisive Theology as a violation of Galatians 3:28 and would cry "FOUL"!... and with perfectly-good reason. In his Epistle to the Galatians, Saint Paul BIBLICALLY OUTLAWS all such Racial Theology.
If we don't give a "pass" to Christian Identity on Galatians 3:28, then likewise we cannot give a "pass" to Dispensationalism. God, through Saint Paul, OUTLAWS all such Racial Theologies.
Why not just show how your view actually explains the prophecy rather than lobbing invectives at me an my views?
That's what I am trying to do.
Best, OP