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"So, you never ask anyone to pray for you?"

First off, I never said that. Now dsc, it is unwise and less than honest to put words in the mouth of others to distract.

To answer your topic switch question, no, I suppose we've simply been blessed and others need intercession more than we do. But if I did I would NEVER want them wasting their time and praying to Mary, or any other dead fallible mortal.

I and other believers call high and direct. Praying for others is fine, however WHO you pray TO makes a BIG difference - ONLY to Christ.

It works like this fro Christians:

Christ is the MEDIATOR and the Holy Spirit is the INTERCESSOR. Christ ALONE, died for our sins; not Peter, Paul or Mary. ONLY Christ. The punishment for sin is DEATH and Christ paid that price by laying His INNOCENT life down for all. The Holy Spirit did NOT die for us. Again, ONLY Christ paid the price.

1 Timothy 2:5

[5] For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Romans 8:26

[26] Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

Dsc, there is still time to get it right ... you see what's going on out there ... . Prophecy is happening right before our eyes.

"First off, I never said that. Now dsc, it is unwise and less than honest to put words in the mouth of others to distract."

1. Note the question mark. A question regarding the implications of a statement does not constitute putting words in someone's mouth.

2. I ask not to distract, but because this is the core of the question.

You ask others to pray for you; so do we. However, because we have not rejected the Communion of Saints, as have protestants, we also ask the Saints to pray for us.

"But if I did I would NEVER want them wasting their time and praying to Mary, or any other dead fallible mortal."

Why would you think that God wouldn't listen to the prayers of the Blessed Virgin?

"ONLY to Christ."

Not to God the Father or the Holy Spirit? You protestants unnecessarily impoverish your spiritual lives by rejecting so many of the blessings and resources that God wants to give you.

"It works like this fro Christians:"

Only Catholics are fully Christian. The rest of you just have a piece of it.

"Christ ... paid the price."

All of that is true, and none of it makes your point. It is as though you're saying, "All men are mortal, Socrates is a man, therefore Hooters is a gourmet restaurant."

Your conclusion just doesn't follow from your premises.

"but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered."

Intercession--the Saints do that, too. You can try to deny it if you like, but I've seen it too many times to take such denials seriously.

"Dsc, there is still time to get it right"

Back at'cha, separated brother. There is still time to embrace the fullness of Christianity, instead of the poor splinter protestants insist is the whole.