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To: jo kus

>>"He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now." 1 John 2:9

Talk is cheap, brother...<<

Where did this "hate" come from? Are you projecting your own feelings about me? I certainly don't "hate" you... And I would challenge you to provide a shred of evidence that would I imply that I do... I thought you were interested in discussing the issues.. That, my friend, was evidently a lapse of judgement on my part...


74 posted on 08/11/2006 3:48:54 PM PDT by politicallyincarrect ( (Human Life Begins at Conception))
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To: politicallyincarrect
I cited: "He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now." 1 John 2:9

I continued: "Talk is cheap, brother...<<

You wrote: Where did this "hate" come from? Are you projecting your own feelings about me? I certainly don't "hate" you...

What an unfortunate turn of events. How have you turned my citation of Scripture into a personal attack? Is this another debate tactic? Turn your opponent's argument into an attack on your person. Try to change the subject when you know you are not advancing your opinion.

I am not personally attacking you! I am merely saying that saying that one is saved is "cheap talk", as John says on several occasions. He even calls such a one a "liar". I didn't identify this to you personally! I don't even know you. As far as I know, you might be the most kind and considerate person I know, another Mother Teresa. My comment is Biblical, as St. James says

"What shall it profit, my brethren, if a man say he hath faith, but hath not works? Shall faith be able to save him? And if a brother or sister be naked, and want daily food: And one of you say to them: Go in peace, be ye warmed and filled; yet give them not those things that are necessary for the body, what shall it profit?" James 2:14-16

In other words, talk is cheap. Nothing to do with you personally.

Jesus says the same thing:

Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven. Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name, and cast out devils in thy name, and done many miracles in thy name? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity. Mat 7:21-23

This is what I meant by "talk is cheap".

My responses to you have thoroughly shredded the idea of Sola Fide. It is simply not biblical. Frankly, it is ANTI-Biblical, if you take the time to read James 2. I have given ample evidence that Sola Fide is a false teaching that tickles the ears. It is a false teaching, one that the devil just loves to hear. If he can get Christians to stop "working out their salvation in fear and trembling", then he can roam around like a lion, bringing Christians "back to the vomit" of their former lives. Sola Fide breeds a presumption that God owes you salvation because you said a sentence in your life!

That being said, despite your error, I wish you well in your search for God's Truth. If you are ever open to considering God's truth, rather than such lies, FP mail me. You won't get the truth in a protesting community...

Regards

75 posted on 08/11/2006 4:31:34 PM PDT by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Crysostom - Phil 2:8)
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