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To: gbcdoj
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Admittedly, arguing over who is following Augustine's teachings is a bit pointless since, after all, you can always reply that you'd rather take scripture over what he said!

Admittedly, arguing over who is following Augustine's teachings is a bit pointless since, after all, you can always reply that you'd rather take Pope Fondoboise over what he said!
155 posted on 08/05/2006 1:09:13 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush
Admittedly, arguing over who is following Augustine's teachings is a bit pointless since, after all, you can always reply that you'd rather take Pope Fondoboise over what he said!

Not quite equivalent. The Protestant (I take it you are one) doesn't assign a normative value to tradition. I don't overthrow the basis of your belief in Calvinism even if I prove that no one between 100 AD and 1520 AD held to the distinctively Calvinist systematic theory of grace. I presume you'd base your belief on scripture, and after all, you yourself said that Calvin explained it better than Augustine did.

In any case, if you want to discuss Augustine's doctrine, I'm certainly happy to do so as a historical matter, and I refer you to the references I gave in my previous post for important differences between Augustine's teaching and that of John Calvin.

156 posted on 08/05/2006 1:32:01 PM PDT by gbcdoj (Destruction is thy own, O Israel; thy help is only in Me.)
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