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To: P-Marlowe; topcat54; Alex Murphy; TomSmedley; Gamecock
I do not claim that Jews have any special standing before God because of their religious views. Indeed by their religious standing they stand in peril.

Amen.

Their standing in regard to the Land of Israel is by right of birth. God made an eternal covenant to them. He will not break it.

I think their standing in regard to the land (not-capitalized) of Israel is fair in light of WWII and a history of the land.

But it is not by birthright. "All Israel is not Israel." That's the message of the New Testament. It's just dirt, now made fruitful by Jewish toil and manipulated by political agendas.

The Jews have always been manipulated by political agendas. That is their sad lot. Stubborness plays a large part, no? Sadly, men will always want to turn toward Egypt.

"Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:

Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.

When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.

But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord" -- Acts 7:52-57


177 posted on 07/26/2006 11:16:15 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; topcat54; Alex Murphy; TomSmedley; Gamecock; Buggman; xzins
The Jews have always been manipulated by political agendas. That is their sad lot. Stubborness plays a large part, no?

Sometimes you sound so Arminian. What about God's plan? Are they not under the sovereign control of God?

The Jews' hearts have been hardened by the very God who led them out of Egypt. In reality the God who has hardened their hearts is leading them (even in their stubborness and stiffneckedness) back to the promised land. Why? It would appear to me that the time of the Gentiles is nearing the end. At that time God will remove the veil from their eyes and unleash a torrent of grace upon them that no man can resist and at the same time unleash a torrent of wrath upon the world that no man can escape.

Sometimes I sound so Calvinistic.

178 posted on 07/26/2006 11:25:53 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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