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To: P-Marlowe; xzins; topcat54; Alex Murphy; TomSmedley; Blogger; nmh; blue-duncan
I think I can say with absolute assurance that it is no coincidence that there is a Nation called Israel located in the land once occupied by those to whom God promised an eternal posession. It is no coincidence that it is the descendants of that promise who now occupy that land and it is no coincidence that all the nations of the earth are joined against it. The existence of Israel appears to be the work of God's hand. What that means at this time is unclear and subject to speculation. But God is not doen with the Nation of Israel. That is clear. To me it means that the times of the Gentiles is coming to an end. I'm not going to pick a date nor am I even going to speculate that it will occur in my lifetime or anyone else's lifetime. Undoubtedly we will all see Jesus within a twinkling of an eye when we pass from death to life. That has been going on for 20 centuries. But someday Jesus will literally come with clouds to rule and reign on earth for a thousand years. We have his word on that. We have his word that when it happens, there will be no debating about whether or not it occurred. Everyone will know for certain. Every eye shall see.

Amen, my friend.

And in that day there shall be a Root of Jesse,
Which shall stand for an ensign of the people;
To Him shall the Gentiles seek:
And His rest shall be glorious.

And it shall come to pass in that day,
That YHVH shall set His hand again the second time
To recover the remnant of His people,

Which shall be left,
From Assyria, and from Egypt,
And from Pathros, and from Cush,
And from Elam, and from Shinar,
And from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.

And he shall set up an ensign for the nations,
And shall assemble the outcasts of Israel,
And gather together the dispersed of Judah
From the four corners of the earth.

Isaiah 10:10-12

The Gentiles have flocked to the Root of Jesse, the Messiah, for two millennia. And now the Lord has regathered His people into the Land for the second time (the first being after the Babylonian captivity). This was to happen before Israel as a whole came into the New Covenant, as Ezekiel prophesied:
Therefore say unto the house of Israel,
Thus saith the Lord YHVH;
I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel,
But for Mine holy name's sake,
Which ye have profaned among the heathen,
Whither ye went.

And I will sanctify My great name,
Which was profaned among the heathen,
Which ye have profaned in the midst of them;
And the heathen shall know that I am YHVH,
Saith the Lord YHVH,
When I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

For I will take you from among the heathen,
And gather you out of all countries,
And will bring you into your own land.

Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you,
And ye shall be clean from all your filthiness,
And from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

A new heart also will I give you,
And a new spirit will I put within you:
And I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh,
And I will give you an heart of flesh.

And I will put My Spirit within you,
And cause you to walk in My statutes,
And ye shall keep My judgments, and do them.

And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers;
And ye shall be My people, and I will be your God.

--Ezekiel 36:22-28

It's the ultimate in predestination: The Lord YHVH, God of Hosts, chose Israel from eternity not based on their faithfulness to Him, but based on His faithfulness to the promises He made to their fathers. He is demonstrating His faithfulness by bringing them back to the Land even before they put their trust in His Son--because our Father always takes the initiative. And we are seeing His faithfulness unfold before our eyes as a sign that His Coming, in the person of the Messiah Yeshua, is soon to come.

One would be foolish to try to set a date for that Coming when the Son said that no one knows the day or hour--but it would be equally foolish not to see and understand the signs, praise God, and understand that we have a great deal to do in a very little time.

145 posted on 07/25/2006 9:00:29 PM PDT by Buggman (L'chaim b'Yeshua HaMashiach!)
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To: Buggman
That YHVH shall set His hand again the second time To recover the remnant of His people,

Your interpretation of that passage in Isaiah 10 is not universal - particularly by people like me who share Isaiah's religion and who he was addressing. The L-rd set His hand the first time to recover the remnant of His people in Egypt - and the second time will be to recover our remnant (i.e. gather in the exiles from the four corners of the Earth) when Moschiach comes - Moschiach who is a human being, descended on his male line directly from King David through King Solomon.

I know that I will not shake your faith, nor you mine, and that is not my intention. I just wanted to let you know that not everyone shares your belief, to open your eyes to other possibilities.

160 posted on 07/26/2006 8:51:15 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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