OK, I see where that came from.
This Heraclius guy does look a lot like Jesus -- Beard, Robe, the dove on his shoulder. Heck the only thing missing is the halo. A lot of people might have been confused.
Posted on 07/24/2006 8:28:49 AM PDT by topcat54
Their salvation is totally of grace.
OK, I see where that came from.
This Heraclius guy does look a lot like Jesus -- Beard, Robe, the dove on his shoulder. Heck the only thing missing is the halo. A lot of people might have been confused.
"A lot of people might have been confused."
See things seemed to be going so good and looked like things were progressing that the ruling religious thought that in spite of the ruthless controls of the Roman Empire and the fact that the Emperor claimed to be god and all the wars going on around them that the time was right for Messiah to come. Along comes Bar Kokhba (Numbers 24:17: "There shall come a star out of Jacob" ("Bar Kokhba" means "son of a star" in the Aramaic language) to lead them out of the Roman captivity.
After Jerusalem had its head handed to it and the Temple Mount was desecrated, never to be used again for religious purposes, they figured out they had been snookered and that the times were not getting better and began to refer to Bar-Kokhba as "Ben-Kusiba", a derogatory term used to indicate that he was a false Messiah. The Jews began then to revise their concept of Messiah.
I don't think that believing we live in a fallen world populated with totally depraved human beings is gnostic. It is very Pauline.
Jesus himself in the parable of the wheat and tares said the two should live together. Who was he speaking of?
(1) Regenerated totally depraved people (see Rom 7) and (2)unregenerated totally depraved people.
They were to be together until separated by a harvest which would end with the weeds being burned.
So, what is the hope of the us sinful folks in this life?.... Regeneration and being one of the saved-by-grace wheat.
DrE, anyone who believes in a millennial reign of Christ is necessarily a dispensationalist. We might quibble over what does and doesn't constitute a dispensation, but the millennial reign is definitely one. At a minimum, there are two others: the old and new covenants.
""Eph 1:8... in which He did abound toward us in all wisdom and prudence, 9 having made known to us the secret of His will, according to His good pleasure, that He purposed in Himself, 10 in regard to the dispensation of the fulness of the times, to bring into one the whole in the Christ, both the things in the heavens, and the things upon the earth -- in him; 11 in whom also we did obtain an inheritance, being foreordained according to the purpose of Him who the all things is working according to the counsel of His will, """
Well, if things are getting progressively better then I guess we can do away with the Armageddon battle with all of its gore and the final annhilation of Satan and his cronies just before the great judgment seat. Whew, I can't bear to watch Steven King movies let alone the violence in Revelation, what with vultures eating all the enemy armies. Boy am I glad things are getting better. Now if only the NEA, the ACLU, the NCC, Islam, China, Korea, AIDS, etc knew about this. Of course, there is that little cryptic phrase in Rev. 16:17; "it is done!" I don't think He is saying "finally, man has brought in the Kingdom of God, let's go home"
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/SAR
Now there you go again, trying to be sensible and accurate . . . in a context where there seems to be little market for such! LOL.
He also seems to have a sense of humor in a context where there seems to be little market for such.
Wellllllllllll, what does one expect where
!!!!!!!TRADITION!!!!!!! REIGNS! LOL.
God's best to you Marlowe.
"He also seems to have a sense of humor in a context where there seems to be little market for such"
Look, for the umpteenth time, it's not humor! I'm practicing to be sardonic, sardonic do you hear? I've paid good money to learn that, so work with me. Sardonic!
Ah welllll . . .
I don't think, in 59 years, I have ever succeeded much at all in getting the world to buy into my labels for a lot of things . . . usually, with some effort, one learns to live with such a phenomenon.
From this day forward you shall be known as... (drum roll)... "SARDON".
{!}
N3
At least it's better than
Sauron.
"From this day forward you shall be known as... (drum roll)... "SARDON"."
Hey, any chance you could add "the Great" to that. I think it would impress K a little and it would really look good on the business cards.
I wasn't thinking "the Great." I was thinking "3."
I had some chess software similar to that.
Sardon 3 Chess: Mock, Taunt, and Murder.
"I was thinking "3.""
That reminds me. The last episode of the 5th season of "24" is on 8:00 P.M. on Friday on Fox.
In order to be known as "SARDON THE GREAT" you must first prove the existence of an inferior Sardon that can be known as "Sardon the Lesser". Once you prove your superiority over the inferior Sardon, you shall be granted the title of "Sardon the Great". Until then it's just plain "Sardon".
Sorry. There is a method to our madness.
Please do not use potty language or references to potty language on the Religion Forum.
Sorry. Please delete it.
Amillennial bumpus ad summum
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