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To: Pyro7480
And you've heard of the net rule, where whoever invokes Hitler or the Nazi loses; right?

Rather than use your side's vile tactics, I won't make up a disgusting "metaphor" ( which wshat you're claiming to be one, isn't...it's just a spurious lie and insulting ), but if I did, it would be MUCH closer to the mark.

Many Catholics have been Masons. None of them were thrown into concentration camps, beaten, tattooed, and/or gassed to death by Masons! Neither were they ever asked to foresake their religion; nor were they shunned for it.

The Masons did NOT "contribute to the destruction of the Catholic culture ( whatever THAT is supposed to mean ) and order in Europe in the 19th century." The point that you are supposedly getting at, is a pack of lies.

If what you claim is true, then there would have been no kings or queens or emperors in Catholic countries, in the 20th century. Hmmm........well, Emperor Franz Joseph was still the Emperor of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, until the end of WW I and it most assuredly was NOT a Mason, who killed his heir, Franz Ferdinand and his mechanistic wife in Sarajevo!

Just WHAT is "Catholic culture", BTW? There are Catholics in Germany and Spain, but even though Spain has sometimes had Germanic rulers, I wouldn't say that they shared the same culture. Even before the REFORMATION, when all of Christendom was Catholic, you would be hard pressed to say that all of them shared the same culture, any more than you could claim that they all shared the same language and the same food.

87 posted on 07/19/2006 9:04:25 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
And you've heard of the net rule, where whoever invokes Hitler or the Nazi loses; right?

As a general rule of thumb, yes. In fact, I like the Burkha/Taliban corollary to that law, but that is for a different discussion. But I think the comparison is apt.

Just WHAT is "Catholic culture", BTW? There are Catholics in Germany and Spain, but even though Spain has sometimes had Germanic rulers, I wouldn't say that they shared the same culture. Even before the REFORMATION, when all of Christendom was Catholic, you would be hard pressed to say that all of them shared the same culture, any more than you could claim that they all shared the same language and the same food.

I'm referring to the concept of Christendom.

89 posted on 07/19/2006 9:07:51 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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