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[The good Reverend Harding hits the nail most squarely on the head! The proximate cause of my departure from PECUSA to a Continuing church a quarter-century ago was my being a delegate to a diocesan convention, and seeing for the first time what was going on outside the purview of the average parishioner. --sionnsar]
1 posted on 07/14/2006 6:09:00 PM PDT by sionnsar
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2 posted on 07/14/2006 6:09:40 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d, N0t Y0urs | NYT:Jihadi Journal)
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To: sionnsar

The Episcopalian priests I have met have all been very odd. But I must admit that I've only met a few... as in three.


3 posted on 07/14/2006 6:11:15 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: sionnsar
I am not Anglican/Episcopalian....
Just a disciple (small "d")
Part of the whole church (small "c")

I appreciate your faithfulness; posting here all of the difficult issues...

Many of your kindred in the Lord at FR are stirred to fervent prayer by the insights and info.

Thanks for keeping me on your ping list Well done... (continuous tense...)

5 posted on 07/14/2006 6:47:30 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (All of the answers remain available; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions!)
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To: sionnsar

A Planned Parenthood Abortion Clinic In Boston.

I think that qualfies as a Democrat Church, don't you?

L

6 posted on 07/14/2006 6:48:29 PM PDT by Lurker (2 months and still no Bill from Congressman Pence. What is he milking squids for the ink?)
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Do people really say the Episcopal Church is democratic? What I saw when I was Episcopalian was an extraordinarily abusive management style. The whole point when you dealt with higher ups at any level was for them to show you who was boss. I don't think that's much of an exaggeration. That was in the Diocese of Long Island, though, which seemed to me extraordinarily dysfunctional at the top but also to some degree at every other level.

The idea of a democratic church is ridiculous anyway. Even assuming none of the stuff Harding says applies what you have is a committee or convention made up of professionals (clergy together with lay pros and semipros) together with some well-meaning amateurs who don't have much experience and put most of their time and attention into other things. The professionals will always get their way, and the amateurs will enable them to say that it was all the people's choice adopted after maximum participation etc.

10 posted on 07/15/2006 3:10:29 AM PDT by JimKalb
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